The people at MythTV have been working on that kind of plugin for a while. I wanted one that would scrape off BBC radio content so I don't keep on missing it but it appears all the open source PVR's world are USA only projects.
For one, there are no real integration attempts to get schedules for other countries. instead you have to mess about to get UK guides and even then it's less than complete.
It's a big problem when your project, open source or not; can't even be used in most countries without hacking.
This device would be perfect if it had the grunt to handle HD media playback and a decent HD output - component probably takes too much space, but DVI or HDMI would fit. Amusing that their website tries to sell the lack of this as a plus point against the Apple TV :-)
Personally speaking, I'd also like it to have built in DVB-T tuners, but we're probably getting into HTPC territory.
Mediaportal has had a plugin for a variety of online video sites, youtube metacafe googleviedeo etc for quite some time. Also a plugin for viewing trailers from online sources.
Color me nonplussed by this gadgetoid. No offense to the makers, but the ability to watch grainy, pixellated video on my widescreen instead of on my 20" does not really rock my boat.
Video quality is a big problem for youtube. The current video quality is OK for a computer screen but is unacceptable on a 32 inch HDTV.
Youtube should split it's collection: offer all video in its standard quality for normal internet users and reencode the videos that have sufficient quality (say 640X480 minimum) at a higher bitrate for use on TVs.
If they fail to do this they will either not get a foothold on the TV or be displaced by sites offering higher quality (such as stage6) in the TV space.
While the benefits of this are to be debated (yes resolution is poor but it can still be fun) this is not in nay way new. Get yourself a copy of XBMC (Xbox Media Centre) on a original Xbox with a modchip and you have this and more. Not only will in play more media types than most, but there are dozens of Python Script enhancements that include YouTube, weather, movie trailers and some things you'd never believe; caller ID anyone?
So get on Ebay spend less than a hundred pounds delivered, and a remote control and get the best media player around. Now all you have to do is hide the ugly thing!
(320x240) roughly equals to the movie quality of a video cd. It's not enough compared to the basic pal cable service (720x525). They should at least go for 640x480.
Youtube capability sounds very stupid when a device can potentionally browse the internet. Adding a flash capable browser makes the device compatible with almost all flash based video services. Adding download capability to this is very simple and could be done with a smal add-on. Playing back saved youtube content offline can be done with the classical mplayer media player that also has good windows media compatibility.
About adding component to a device: component is just a simple conversion from the analog vga signal to a differencial format, adding svideo is just a simple conversion from component to two channel mode. Also it's easy to mix the two channels of svideo into a single composite output. All this above can be output on a dvi-i connector (for vga/dvi) and a 4 contact 3.5 phono jack (configurable to rgb/component/svideo/composite). Adding digital 5.1 audio output can be done with 3 combined optical/electric phono jacks, providing a stereo analog/spif coax/spidf optical output for every 3.5 jack. It's a small and cheap way to do it and users can select the right brakeout cable avoiding large and unused rows of different connectors. (for tv output the chip must use a nonstandard video mode or have a dual dvi-i/tv-out mode) For hdmi, the dvi output and one spdif output can be combined into a hdmi cable. It's just a question of 5 small connectors and some creativity when making breakout cables.
Martin Owens
MythTV #
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 20:32 GMT
The people at MythTV have been working on that kind of plugin for a while. I wanted one that would scrape off BBC radio content so I don't keep on missing it but it appears all the open source PVR's world are USA only projects.
For one, there are no real integration attempts to get schedules for other countries. instead you have to mess about to get UK guides and even then it's less than complete.
It's a big problem when your project, open source or not; can't even be used in most countries without hacking.
Chris Redpath
Shame about the hardware #
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 20:32 GMT
This device would be perfect if it had the grunt to handle HD media playback and a decent HD output - component probably takes too much space, but DVI or HDMI would fit. Amusing that their website tries to sell the lack of this as a plus point against the Apple TV :-)
Personally speaking, I'd also like it to have built in DVB-T tuners, but we're probably getting into HTPC territory.
And, no MKV support? How odd.
Hig Hurtenflurst
Is it just me... #
Posted Wednesday 4th July 2007 20:32 GMT
Or does every new bit of h/w have to be YouTubed up? Freedom to publish is fine and dandy but I'd love to know which is greater:
one drop / one ocean
or
worth viewing YouTube content / one seventh of all YouTube content
Guess I'm not the first, but just wondered.
Anonymous Coward
MediaPortal #
Posted Thursday 5th July 2007 05:29 GMT
Mediaportal has had a plugin for a variety of online video sites, youtube metacafe googleviedeo etc for quite some time. Also a plugin for viewing trailers from online sources.
Pascal Monett
And this is supposed to be a good thing ? #
Posted Thursday 5th July 2007 06:23 GMT
Color me nonplussed by this gadgetoid. No offense to the makers, but the ability to watch grainy, pixellated video on my widescreen instead of on my 20" does not really rock my boat.
Eric Van Haesendonck
I agree with Pascal #
Posted Thursday 5th July 2007 07:45 GMT
Video quality is a big problem for youtube. The current video quality is OK for a computer screen but is unacceptable on a 32 inch HDTV.
Youtube should split it's collection: offer all video in its standard quality for normal internet users and reencode the videos that have sufficient quality (say 640X480 minimum) at a higher bitrate for use on TVs.
If they fail to do this they will either not get a foothold on the TV or be displaced by sites offering higher quality (such as stage6) in the TV space.
Jamie Henderson
Nice of you to catch up #
Posted Thursday 5th July 2007 10:32 GMT
While the benefits of this are to be debated (yes resolution is poor but it can still be fun) this is not in nay way new. Get yourself a copy of XBMC (Xbox Media Centre) on a original Xbox with a modchip and you have this and more. Not only will in play more media types than most, but there are dozens of Python Script enhancements that include YouTube, weather, movie trailers and some things you'd never believe; caller ID anyone?
So get on Ebay spend less than a hundred pounds delivered, and a remote control and get the best media player around. Now all you have to do is hide the ugly thing!
Anonymous Coward
Youtube quality #
Posted Thursday 5th July 2007 10:37 GMT
(320x240) roughly equals to the movie quality of a video cd. It's not enough compared to the basic pal cable service (720x525). They should at least go for 640x480.
Youtube capability sounds very stupid when a device can potentionally browse the internet. Adding a flash capable browser makes the device compatible with almost all flash based video services. Adding download capability to this is very simple and could be done with a smal add-on. Playing back saved youtube content offline can be done with the classical mplayer media player that also has good windows media compatibility.
About adding component to a device: component is just a simple conversion from the analog vga signal to a differencial format, adding svideo is just a simple conversion from component to two channel mode. Also it's easy to mix the two channels of svideo into a single composite output. All this above can be output on a dvi-i connector (for vga/dvi) and a 4 contact 3.5 phono jack (configurable to rgb/component/svideo/composite). Adding digital 5.1 audio output can be done with 3 combined optical/electric phono jacks, providing a stereo analog/spif coax/spidf optical output for every 3.5 jack. It's a small and cheap way to do it and users can select the right brakeout cable avoiding large and unused rows of different connectors. (for tv output the chip must use a nonstandard video mode or have a dual dvi-i/tv-out mode) For hdmi, the dvi output and one spdif output can be combined into a hdmi cable. It's just a question of 5 small connectors and some creativity when making breakout cables.
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