Do you think they might use OLED with computers? #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 16:16 GMT
All this talk of OLED panels being used in television and media players, but given the 40% saving in power consumption, the thin and light construction and the excellent contrast, is there not a case for them to be used in laptops and monitors? Or am I missing something here?
RE: Do you think they might use OLED with computers? #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 17:15 GMT
Absolutely, but they're already able to produce 11" screens (albeit very expensively), so they could do this now if the price was right.
I guess the current push is to produce the screens large enough to use in the more lucrative home-telly market, and prices for mobile phone and laptop-sized screens will naturally reduce.
Yep, you are probably missing the fact that you can use TVs as monitors.. they're basically just the same thing, but TVs have decoders and usually speakers too..
We're talking about products that are in development. One of the big promises of OLED technology is low cost of production; potentially an order of magnitude less than current technologies.
With the present technology the power-saving comes from the fact that the power scales with the total light emitted by the screen. Since TV content contains the full range of colours (and films tend to be rather darker, closer to 20% "load" on average) you save power compared to an LCD which burns the backlight regardless of content.
In a typical PC application with mostly full-white backgrounds you'll probably use slightly more power than an LCD (present generation technology), similarly aging will be a bigger issue with higher average brightness (and the fact that the high brightness will make it run hotter, further accelerating the aging), and significant static image-content will be a burn-in problem (eg Windows' taskbar).
I'd be very surprised to see PC OLED screens any time soon.
Sony to pump ¥22bn into OLED production
Alan Jenney
Do you think they might use OLED with computers? #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 16:16 GMT
All this talk of OLED panels being used in television and media players, but given the 40% saving in power consumption, the thin and light construction and the excellent contrast, is there not a case for them to be used in laptops and monitors? Or am I missing something here?
Anonymous John
Re Do you think they might use OLED with computers? #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 17:11 GMT
Eventually, I expect. Far too expensive at present. It's hard to see them selling many OLED TVs at the present price.
Ralph B
Lifespan? #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 17:11 GMT
The biggest argument against OLED is surely the limited lifespan - The Reg's own technology review said:
> The organic compounds degrade with use, especially those
> that emit blue light, so they won't operate at full brightness for
> anywhere near as long as an LCD will. The addition of
> phosphorescent materials do improve OLED longevity, but still
> not up to LCD levels.
But perhaps that is an argument FOR the technology in Sony's eyes.
Tim Spence
RE: Do you think they might use OLED with computers? #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 17:15 GMT
Absolutely, but they're already able to produce 11" screens (albeit very expensively), so they could do this now if the price was right.
I guess the current push is to produce the screens large enough to use in the more lucrative home-telly market, and prices for mobile phone and laptop-sized screens will naturally reduce.
Register Reader
Missing something #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 18:41 GMT
Yep, you are probably missing the fact that you can use TVs as monitors.. they're basically just the same thing, but TVs have decoders and usually speakers too..
bart
cost #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 22:04 GMT
We're talking about products that are in development. One of the big promises of OLED technology is low cost of production; potentially an order of magnitude less than current technologies.
Andrew Steer
Doubt OLED useful for computers just yet #
Posted Tuesday 19th February 2008 23:25 GMT
With the present technology the power-saving comes from the fact that the power scales with the total light emitted by the screen. Since TV content contains the full range of colours (and films tend to be rather darker, closer to 20% "load" on average) you save power compared to an LCD which burns the backlight regardless of content.
In a typical PC application with mostly full-white backgrounds you'll probably use slightly more power than an LCD (present generation technology), similarly aging will be a bigger issue with higher average brightness (and the fact that the high brightness will make it run hotter, further accelerating the aging), and significant static image-content will be a burn-in problem (eg Windows' taskbar).
I'd be very surprised to see PC OLED screens any time soon.
John
@Andrew Steer #
Posted Wednesday 20th February 2008 08:33 GMT
real coders use black backgrounds!