I mean really, when it was based on clockspeed you could at least see at a glance which chips were supposed to be faster than what. But it looks like CPUs are going the way of GPUs: Confusing and hard to compare.
For example, comparing the GF5200 with an ATI equivalant... the 9600? Or is that better, or worse, or what? It's very tricky to tell without opening the techspecs, looking at clock & bus speeds and checking the number of pipes it has.
It should stop any madness with duo, quad, two, 2, x2.
I'd imagine most readers have, at some stage, had to explain the difference between a core duo and a core 2 processor to someone, only to have that someone nip off to PCworld and triumphantly return with a "bargain" "latest processor" "discount" core 1 chip.
Unfortunately clock speed doesn't even come close to telling you which chip will perform faster than another. The design of the chip is so complex that naming has become a real problem. I thought intel had nailed it with the first lot of Core 2 chips. The Letter and number told you which performed the best. Then they introduced Penryn and a whole new level of complexity and I gave up caring.
as them picking up a Pentium 4, and gleefully exclaiming how much faster their 3GHz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading is soo much faster than your piddly 2.5GHz Core 2 E7200.
It's called Larrabee, but unfortunately for you it'll be in the same form factor, produce the same amount of heat and consume the same amount of power as the other "insanely hot VGA cards".
As for the 'i' prefix thing, technically they had it before Apple. i386, ia-32, ia-64, etc.
I see a few posts describing the problem of the name not clearly indicating how an i7 is better than a Core 2 or whever, but no solutions. So, how are consumers supposed to know that i7 is better than whatever they're upgrading from?
I'm sure some good tv commercials will let everyone know that i7 is newest, but that doesn't always mean 'better' (Vista is newer than XP, but...), and if an average consumer upgrading from a mid-range Core-something or even a high end (but 4+ years old) Pentium 4 HT can't tell whether the mid-range i7 is going to be faster, why should they part with their money?
The PPro was the first P6 and came with a new bus architecture, which it seems is still the same bus they used throughout the Pentium II, Pentium !!! (yeah they really named it that), Pentium 4, Pentium M, and various Core variants (and miscellaneous Celerons) and the Pentium Dual Core. The new design with quickpath (or whatever it is named now) will be a new bus, and hence could be considered the 7th generation of bus interface.
To be honest, I couldn't give a monkey's what they name it, I just want to know when I can actually buy a chip and board - and a decent Zalman cooler as, despite billions spent on R&D they still can't develop a good cpu fan.
I won't even comment on the clowns at Nvidia. I mean, you spend £300 on speakers, £200 on a top end soundcard - and what do you get - drowned out by the 60dB turbine whine of the GPU coolers. Sheesh!
Intel Core i7 I7-920 Quad Core Processor (2.66GHz, 4x256kB, 4.8GT/s QPI, LGA 1336 Socket B)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core Processor (3.4GHz, 6MB L3 Cache, 4x512KB L2 Cache, 2000 MHz Bus, Socket AM3)
Asus P7P55D Motherboard (Intel Socket H LGA1156, P55 Express, ATX, 16GB DDR3)
Intel Core i5 750 Qaud Core Processor (2.66GHz, 8MB L3 Cache, 2.5 GT/s Bus, Socket H LGA1156)
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G/SB710 Socket AM3 ATX Motherboard
Intel to brand next-gen CPUs 'Core i7'
Edwin
another corp falls victim to... #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 09:43 GMT
...the iTards
I don't care if it should be 7,8, 12 or 23985723. The 'i' annoys me!
I mean - I even found a bloody iBed on the interweb!
iStop iIt! iI iCahn't iTake iIt iAnymore!
E-
(sorry Carl!)
Wokstation
All these names... #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 09:43 GMT
...make it confusing for the general punter.
I mean really, when it was based on clockspeed you could at least see at a glance which chips were supposed to be faster than what. But it looks like CPUs are going the way of GPUs: Confusing and hard to compare.
For example, comparing the GF5200 with an ATI equivalant... the 9600? Or is that better, or worse, or what? It's very tricky to tell without opening the techspecs, looking at clock & bus speeds and checking the number of pipes it has.
Bleh. No wonder I bought a console...
Dave
This is a good thing #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 09:43 GMT
It should stop any madness with duo, quad, two, 2, x2.
I'd imagine most readers have, at some stage, had to explain the difference between a core duo and a core 2 processor to someone, only to have that someone nip off to PCworld and triumphantly return with a "bargain" "latest processor" "discount" core 1 chip.
Martin Lyne
Idiocy #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 11:57 GMT
"Chip 5" would be better than these stupid names. Boring marketing is better than confusing marketing.
chuckufarley
My bologna has a first name... #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 11:57 GMT
...it's B U L L S H
I T
Coat, Hat, Pub.
James Bassett
RE: All these names #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 11:57 GMT
Unfortunately clock speed doesn't even come close to telling you which chip will perform faster than another. The design of the chip is so complex that naming has become a real problem. I thought intel had nailed it with the first lot of Core 2 chips. The Letter and number told you which performed the best. Then they introduced Penryn and a whole new level of complexity and I gave up caring.
Anonymous Coward
Codename Gaza Strip #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 11:57 GMT
Intel core i7 duo 2
John Sanders
Boring... #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 11:57 GMT
Where are those Intel realtime rendering CPU´s?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blfxI1cVOzU
Come on intel kill those insanely hot VGA cards once and for all!!!
Anonymous Coward
id prefer #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 11:57 GMT
hardy heron and gutsy gibbon
Lightnix
Getting a Core solo is not nearly as bad... #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 12:38 GMT
as them picking up a Pentium 4, and gleefully exclaiming how much faster their 3GHz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading is soo much faster than your piddly 2.5GHz Core 2 E7200.
Jonathan Tate
@John Sanders #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 12:38 GMT
It's called Larrabee, but unfortunately for you it'll be in the same form factor, produce the same amount of heat and consume the same amount of power as the other "insanely hot VGA cards".
As for the 'i' prefix thing, technically they had it before Apple. i386, ia-32, ia-64, etc.
Anonymous Coward
confused consumers #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 16:43 GMT
I see a few posts describing the problem of the name not clearly indicating how an i7 is better than a Core 2 or whever, but no solutions. So, how are consumers supposed to know that i7 is better than whatever they're upgrading from?
I'm sure some good tv commercials will let everyone know that i7 is newest, but that doesn't always mean 'better' (Vista is newer than XP, but...), and if an average consumer upgrading from a mid-range Core-something or even a high end (but 4+ years old) Pentium 4 HT can't tell whether the mid-range i7 is going to be faster, why should they part with their money?
Jesse Dorland
i is the way to go #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 20:05 GMT
C'mon guys, we are okay with "iPod", "iPhone", and "i Anyting" by Apple, then why not Intel.
Lennart Sorensen
I guess it is number 7 in some ways. #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 20:05 GMT
The PPro was the first P6 and came with a new bus architecture, which it seems is still the same bus they used throughout the Pentium II, Pentium !!! (yeah they really named it that), Pentium 4, Pentium M, and various Core variants (and miscellaneous Celerons) and the Pentium Dual Core. The new design with quickpath (or whatever it is named now) will be a new bus, and hence could be considered the 7th generation of bus interface.
Core i7 does seem like an odd choice though.
F Seiler
four #
Posted Monday 11th August 2008 21:24 GMT
I think intel should name all new chips M 4.
M stands for "Model" and 4 because of http://xkcd.com/221/ (I-triple-E can't be wrong).
Paul Ackerley
Ackadia #
Posted Tuesday 12th August 2008 09:59 GMT
To be honest, I couldn't give a monkey's what they name it, I just want to know when I can actually buy a chip and board - and a decent Zalman cooler as, despite billions spent on R&D they still can't develop a good cpu fan.
I won't even comment on the clowns at Nvidia. I mean, you spend £300 on speakers, £200 on a top end soundcard - and what do you get - drowned out by the 60dB turbine whine of the GPU coolers. Sheesh!