I agree on the surface it seems like an odd comment, and it made me laugh too.
but i remember a plucky new OS by MS that sudenly allowed multi PC sutups to run etc. getting in there early on with a generic OS is pure genious as all phones are gradually turning into PC's anyway..
I think the reporter is a little too attached to his iPhone...
Very exciting times that its finally coming to market, but i will be waiting for o2 to offer me something at the end of my 18months with my n95.
Anonymous Coward
Are T-Mobile a marketing department due to leaks #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 13:02 GMT
Seriously T-Mobile get there hands on anything be it a blackberry or googlephone and its in the news, leaked. they seriously cant be trusted to carry anything without leaking it.
Thats gonna be an interesting battle. Apples cool put may sooner or later be classed as sooooooooo last year. Googles also cool, but the open platform will be loved by the power users as well.
A leak is simply an unofficial press release that the company or, indeed, the politician doesn't want to be tied to in case it explodes back in their face.
Cf memorandums, inside sources, junior assistant, mis-sent emails... - spin, spin and more spin.
...T-Mobile could concentrate on making devices that have already been released available to their customers. I tried upgrading to the Nokia E90. No joy. They also don't seem interested in the E71 either.
For all the bashing the jesus phone gets, shouldn't we be happy about a new competitor? What matters most to me is battery life, and can it do all the things it's hyped to do in a more efficient manner than current phones.
So what if the Gphone comes out after xmas, the people that understand how much a joke the current Iphone is won't run out to best buy or an AT&T store just to have it under the tree. I'll give Gphone a chance to at least not be as bad as the jesus phone.
Now: "You'd be mad to buy an iPhone, it's a joke - wait for a gPhone!"
Sept: "It's official - an iPhone killer... take that iPhone Fanbois / Sheep / Mactards!"
Oct: "iPhone weep - the mighty HTC/Android phone will arrive any day and destroy you!"
Nov: "Yeah, Google and HTC do right to delay till after Christmas - the iPhone will be decimated after they add the finishing touches!!"
Feb (2009): "Just wait until it's released - JesusPhone sux!"
March (2009): "It's out - and yeah a bit buggy... but it has a 3 megapixel camera - screw you iPhone wankers!!"
Aug (2009 - 1 year from now): "the 2.0 software is coming and that will blow the iPhone to pieces - die Mactard scum!!"
etc...
It's gonna be hard for a phone that's clearly built around a concept that Apple have pioneered (ie the finger touch screen interface) to ever really catch up. I'm not saying impossible, but hard.
Add into this the whole "Company A does OS, Company B does hardware and Company C does applications" and whichever way you cut it, Android could be in for a bumpy ride.
It's great to see more innovation in this market - and Android HAS to be better than Windows Mobile...
Oh wait, it doesn't support the stereo Bluetooth 2.0 A2DP profile.
Five things. But only Five things.
Oh yeah, it doesn't record video, allow DUN tethering, support Bluetooth keyboards, MMS, or voice activated dialing.
Ok, so there are 10 things the GPhone could conquer the iPhone on. This should get interesting.
BTW I *am* an iPhone owner, so not just a basher. I *do* feel even with the issues listed above it's the best phone on the market for what I do (surfing, email and ssh with and ssh client from the App Store.)
I think the whole android thing is stupid, you can only make apps in their version of Java. The whole idea of Java is being multiplatform, having your app available on any mobile platform. If there going to force people to use their own language they should use a speedy dynamic language like Pike. Nokia has been sitting on the potential to kill the iPhone with phones like the E90 and N810. Theyve just bought up Symbian and made it open source and are also using mobile Linux, they should be doing more to promote an open dev enviornment and access to 3rd party apps. Why is it only Jobs is able to get anything done with smartphones?
The iPhone also doesn't wash the dishes or make a boiled egg that's still runny for me to dip my toast in.
For what most people use the iPhone for (or any phone really) - it rocks! Most users of mobile phones and/or the iPhone will never need copy and paste, or DUN tethering or any of the other stuff you mention really.
Web browsing is the best of any mobile device I've seen or used. Text messages are handled in a new way that actually makes sense - more like an instant messaging app. Email is properly integrated and with the large clear screen they are actually readable. The keyboard is, for me, much better for most things than a standard keyboard - certainly a lot quicker. And it can play my music. It doesn't do anything more than other phones can, but it's HOW it does them.
There are things that I would like the iPhone to do, but ultimately I don't see why people are bashing the iPhone because it doesn't do absolutely everything anyone could think of.
The The Innaworks product, alcheMo for iPhone, could reasonably bring Android to the iPhone, without a jailbreak (although the following article does not mention Android as a targeted Java application.)
With those new 3G iPhones at $199, it will not be long for the 1 generation iPhone to be available at a steal on eBay... they would make a good Android candidate!
"It's gonna be hard for a phone that's clearly built around a concept that Apple have pioneered (ie the finger touch screen interface) to ever really catch up"
I've never known a single sentence to be such complete and utter bo**ocks as that.
Bloody Fantards!
//Paris because I'm sure she's had some experience of bo**ocks too!
HTC Touch HD Pocket PC
MWg Zinc II
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Touch Diamond2
Palm Treo Pro Smartphone
Googlephone is coming soon
Ralph B
Software with no hardware? #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 11:16 GMT
Is it available to run in Sadville?
Kirstian K
Re Software with no hardware? #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 11:58 GMT
I agree on the surface it seems like an odd comment, and it made me laugh too.
but i remember a plucky new OS by MS that sudenly allowed multi PC sutups to run etc. getting in there early on with a generic OS is pure genious as all phones are gradually turning into PC's anyway..
Oli
bias? #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 12:07 GMT
I think the reporter is a little too attached to his iPhone...
Very exciting times that its finally coming to market, but i will be waiting for o2 to offer me something at the end of my 18months with my n95.
Anonymous Coward
Are T-Mobile a marketing department due to leaks #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 13:02 GMT
Seriously T-Mobile get there hands on anything be it a blackberry or googlephone and its in the news, leaked. they seriously cant be trusted to carry anything without leaking it.
Paris, coz she has suffered these fools as well.
Anthony Shortland
Apple vs Google #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 13:21 GMT
Thats gonna be an interesting battle. Apples cool put may sooner or later be classed as sooooooooo last year. Googles also cool, but the open platform will be loved by the power users as well.
W
Leaks #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 13:39 GMT
A leak is simply an unofficial press release that the company or, indeed, the politician doesn't want to be tied to in case it explodes back in their face.
Cf memorandums, inside sources, junior assistant, mis-sent emails... - spin, spin and more spin.
Anonymous Coward
It would be nice if... #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 14:50 GMT
...T-Mobile could concentrate on making devices that have already been released available to their customers. I tried upgrading to the Nokia E90. No joy. They also don't seem interested in the E71 either.
Anton Ivanov
Re: Apple vs Google #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 14:50 GMT
What battle?
Check who is on whose board before having a delusion of competition.
Duffy
Before we deem Gphone to be evil... #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 14:50 GMT
For all the bashing the jesus phone gets, shouldn't we be happy about a new competitor? What matters most to me is battery life, and can it do all the things it's hyped to do in a more efficient manner than current phones.
So what if the Gphone comes out after xmas, the people that understand how much a joke the current Iphone is won't run out to best buy or an AT&T store just to have it under the tree. I'll give Gphone a chance to at least not be as bad as the jesus phone.
Ben Bufton
Poor Google #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 15:21 GMT
Christ - I can see where this one is going:
Now: "You'd be mad to buy an iPhone, it's a joke - wait for a gPhone!"
Sept: "It's official - an iPhone killer... take that iPhone Fanbois / Sheep / Mactards!"
Oct: "iPhone weep - the mighty HTC/Android phone will arrive any day and destroy you!"
Nov: "Yeah, Google and HTC do right to delay till after Christmas - the iPhone will be decimated after they add the finishing touches!!"
Feb (2009): "Just wait until it's released - JesusPhone sux!"
March (2009): "It's out - and yeah a bit buggy... but it has a 3 megapixel camera - screw you iPhone wankers!!"
Aug (2009 - 1 year from now): "the 2.0 software is coming and that will blow the iPhone to pieces - die Mactard scum!!"
etc...
It's gonna be hard for a phone that's clearly built around a concept that Apple have pioneered (ie the finger touch screen interface) to ever really catch up. I'm not saying impossible, but hard.
Add into this the whole "Company A does OS, Company B does hardware and Company C does applications" and whichever way you cut it, Android could be in for a bumpy ride.
It's great to see more innovation in this market - and Android HAS to be better than Windows Mobile...
Surely!
caffeine addict
I need sleep #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 15:45 GMT
I keep reading Android as Paranoid...
It's not an iPhone beater yet but it will probably get there. I wonder when you'll be able to upgrade your GPhone from beta release though...
Anonymous Coward
There's only one problem with the iPhone... #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 16:57 GMT
And that's battery life.
Well actually, it doesn't have a ToDo app either.
Ok so two things.
Well it doesn't sync memo/notes to your PC.
Ok three things.
Oh yeah, no copy and paste.
Four things.
Oh wait, it doesn't support the stereo Bluetooth 2.0 A2DP profile.
Five things. But only Five things.
Oh yeah, it doesn't record video, allow DUN tethering, support Bluetooth keyboards, MMS, or voice activated dialing.
Ok, so there are 10 things the GPhone could conquer the iPhone on. This should get interesting.
BTW I *am* an iPhone owner, so not just a basher. I *do* feel even with the issues listed above it's the best phone on the market for what I do (surfing, email and ssh with and ssh client from the App Store.)
Drak
and where is nokia? #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 20:48 GMT
I think the whole android thing is stupid, you can only make apps in their version of Java. The whole idea of Java is being multiplatform, having your app available on any mobile platform. If there going to force people to use their own language they should use a speedy dynamic language like Pike. Nokia has been sitting on the potential to kill the iPhone with phones like the E90 and N810. Theyve just bought up Symbian and made it open source and are also using mobile Linux, they should be doing more to promote an open dev enviornment and access to 3rd party apps. Why is it only Jobs is able to get anything done with smartphones?
Anonymous Coward
re There's only one... by AC #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 20:48 GMT
The iPhone also doesn't wash the dishes or make a boiled egg that's still runny for me to dip my toast in.
For what most people use the iPhone for (or any phone really) - it rocks! Most users of mobile phones and/or the iPhone will never need copy and paste, or DUN tethering or any of the other stuff you mention really.
Web browsing is the best of any mobile device I've seen or used. Text messages are handled in a new way that actually makes sense - more like an instant messaging app. Email is properly integrated and with the large clear screen they are actually readable. The keyboard is, for me, much better for most things than a standard keyboard - certainly a lot quicker. And it can play my music. It doesn't do anything more than other phones can, but it's HOW it does them.
There are things that I would like the iPhone to do, but ultimately I don't see why people are bashing the iPhone because it doesn't do absolutely everything anyone could think of.
Adrian
So is El Reg #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 20:48 GMT
going to call these a generic 'Gesusphone' as opposed to a 3Gesus-phone ?
Jonathan Tate
Can't wait... #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 20:48 GMT
...to replace my damn HTC Apache!
Anonymous Coward
You are all deluded #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 21:24 GMT
My N95 already does ALL of this. It does everything. And better than your does as well.
Yes - you are all deluded.
David Halko
Android on Java on an iPhone? #
Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 22:53 GMT
It seems funny... people are talking about Android, Google, and iPhone and not considering the obvious - Android on an iPhone.
It seems that the iPhone has a Java bytecode hardware engine built into it.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=338
Users can jailbreak the iPhone to get Java onto it.
http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-install-compile-run-java-on-iphone/
The The Innaworks product, alcheMo for iPhone, could reasonably bring Android to the iPhone, without a jailbreak (although the following article does not mention Android as a targeted Java application.)
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/04/24/Sun-continues-pursuit-of-Java-for-iPhone_1.html
With those new 3G iPhones at $199, it will not be long for the 1 generation iPhone to be available at a steal on eBay... they would make a good Android candidate!
Neoc
Name for the new GPhone: #
Posted Wednesday 20th August 2008 05:27 GMT
The Marvin?
Anonymous Coward
RE: Poor Google #
Posted Wednesday 20th August 2008 08:47 GMT
"It's gonna be hard for a phone that's clearly built around a concept that Apple have pioneered (ie the finger touch screen interface) to ever really catch up"
I've never known a single sentence to be such complete and utter bo**ocks as that.
Bloody Fantards!
//Paris because I'm sure she's had some experience of bo**ocks too!
rick buck
still waiting... #
Posted Wednesday 20th August 2008 15:57 GMT
...and I'm still waiting for delivery of my Google TISP (toilet based, internet broadband).
....starting to get toilet seat impression...very painful...what, it was a joke...