... than I pay for text and data here in the UK? 9p for SMS and 79p/MB for data.
I currently (when my bundles run out) pay 10p for SMS and £1/MB, so unless these price caps are are also applying to home networks, it will be cheaper for me to use my phone abroad than in the UK.
So she should cap the cost of charges for Data and SMS when in the EU, so should we pay almost double what we pay in the UK for texts when in the EU?
One thing I find strange though is if SMS will be capped at 9p, this will mean its actually CHEAPER to send a SMS when in the EU than sending a SMS when your in the UK - therefore in order to make this fairer wouldnt they also need to cut costs of SMS charges in the UK too?
What I also find strange is why she isnt focusing on Fixed Telephone operators and bringing in legislation to STOP these companies charging excessive connection charges of 7p for calls, as well as being able to bill us for calls per minute and not per second?????
Its not just mobiles where we as consumers are ripped off...
Emailed her heaps on this one but she doesnt bother replying to them!
It's almost worth getting a foreign SIM to use at home. 9p/text roaming, 10p/text on home network. £0.79/Mbyte roaming, £1.50/Mbyte at home. 35p/min peak-rate cross-network calls at home, 27p/min when roaming. I bet these "within Europe" rates exclude home network...
(Okay, I'm on the old Everyday 50 tariff. Which I only ever use offpeak for outgoing calls so is the perfect tariff for me.)
Paris because she'd be just as confused about this.
I currently pay 12p per text, £5 per MB and up to 40p per minute for calls (if it's a non-same network call to a UK mobile) when on my home network in the UK. If these rates are enforced it'll actually be cheaper to use my phone when I'm roaming that when I'm back in Blighty! Winner!
I've started to collect and publish information on all current tariffs at MobileMeg.Org.
Cost is often cited as one of the single biggest reasons preventing faster adoption of Mobile Data Services by consumers and hopefully this will making these costs clear and accessible to consumers helping them understand whats available and make informed choice.
Check it out and join in at http://www.mobilemeg.org.
I'm glad that the EU has enforced a ruling that will actually help it's citizens, WRT roaming charges.
When is Ms Reding going to look into the rip-off that is 070x numbers. I feel a letter coming on to my MEP's. I must say that writetothem.co.uk gets answers.
Your probably hopeless optimists if you expect the UK prices for SMS and data to drop, didn't several of of the networks INCREASE their Pay As You Go prices following the previous round of EU capping to compensate for lost revenu?
I for one would not be surprised to see them increase charges again for Pay As You Go users, contract customers will probably be safe as price increases usually mean you can end your contract early which the networks really don't like.
Surely if the banks can be forced to cut their penalty fees to bear some relation to the cost involved, then roaming data should be similarly treated. Disruptive analysis rather cheekily posted a suggested cost of about 2p/MB (which at £20/GB must still be North of the true cost, or the operators would be losing money. Charching 40 times that for the privilege of roaming is completely out of kilter with voice roaming caps being ~3 times and the proposed textcap of ~1-2 times (or a price reduction even!).
This legislation will come too late (July 2009 is a full 12 months after her 'drop-dead date' for the operators to reduce charges) and be as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit and as useful as a chocolate teapot for Mobile Broadband Users.
I am still not impressed: "a £0.79 per megabyte limit" still feels like £79 ($ 140) for an evening's roaming of 100MB. Fortunately I have no interest in musak nor videos.
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EU confirms SMS and data roaming price caps
Chris Hamilton
Thats cheaper..... #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 14:33 GMT
... than I pay for text and data here in the UK? 9p for SMS and 79p/MB for data.
I currently (when my bundles run out) pay 10p for SMS and £1/MB, so unless these price caps are are also applying to home networks, it will be cheaper for me to use my phone abroad than in the UK.
Stephen Lindsey
Good news #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 14:33 GMT
Roaming 23p?
Proximus Belgium: Internal 12 cents, roaming in UK 75
They need to be forced or they will be no change.
Pete Forman
Will this apply when not roaming? #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 14:33 GMT
Nearly all operators charge 10p or more for PAYG SMS within the UK. Is that to be capped too?
http://petef.22web.net/payg.html
Anonymous Coward
Go Viv... #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 14:33 GMT
So she should cap the cost of charges for Data and SMS when in the EU, so should we pay almost double what we pay in the UK for texts when in the EU?
One thing I find strange though is if SMS will be capped at 9p, this will mean its actually CHEAPER to send a SMS when in the EU than sending a SMS when your in the UK - therefore in order to make this fairer wouldnt they also need to cut costs of SMS charges in the UK too?
What I also find strange is why she isnt focusing on Fixed Telephone operators and bringing in legislation to STOP these companies charging excessive connection charges of 7p for calls, as well as being able to bill us for calls per minute and not per second?????
Its not just mobiles where we as consumers are ripped off...
Emailed her heaps on this one but she doesnt bother replying to them!
zedee
Cheaper than internal charges #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 14:33 GMT
9p per SMS is a bit cheaper and 79p per MB is far cheaper than what I pay inside the UK, let alone roaming in the EU.
These restrictions will only apply across borders, I'm sure. Time to get an O2 germany SIM for use here........
Soruk
Cheaper abroad than at home? #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 14:33 GMT
It's almost worth getting a foreign SIM to use at home. 9p/text roaming, 10p/text on home network. £0.79/Mbyte roaming, £1.50/Mbyte at home. 35p/min peak-rate cross-network calls at home, 27p/min when roaming. I bet these "within Europe" rates exclude home network...
(Okay, I'm on the old Everyday 50 tariff. Which I only ever use offpeak for outgoing calls so is the perfect tariff for me.)
Paris because she'd be just as confused about this.
MJ
Be cheaper for me to roam! #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 14:33 GMT
I currently pay 12p per text, £5 per MB and up to 40p per minute for calls (if it's a non-same network call to a UK mobile) when on my home network in the UK. If these rates are enforced it'll actually be cheaper to use my phone when I'm roaming that when I'm back in Blighty! Winner!
Nathanael Bastone
Also here #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 20:12 GMT
10p / message 30p / minute other networks, 15p / min home and landline.Roaming for me too! crazy!
Because even Paris would see the illogicality at work here.
Peter
Keeping tabs on current tariffs #
Posted Tuesday 23rd September 2008 20:12 GMT
An unadulterated plug follows ...
I've started to collect and publish information on all current tariffs at MobileMeg.Org.
Cost is often cited as one of the single biggest reasons preventing faster adoption of Mobile Data Services by consumers and hopefully this will making these costs clear and accessible to consumers helping them understand whats available and make informed choice.
Check it out and join in at http://www.mobilemeg.org.
Andy Barber
What about the 070x rip off #
Posted Wednesday 24th September 2008 12:21 GMT
I'm glad that the EU has enforced a ruling that will actually help it's citizens, WRT roaming charges.
When is Ms Reding going to look into the rip-off that is 070x numbers. I feel a letter coming on to my MEP's. I must say that writetothem.co.uk gets answers.
Anonymous Coward
Price Reductions...fat chance! #
Posted Wednesday 24th September 2008 15:17 GMT
Your probably hopeless optimists if you expect the UK prices for SMS and data to drop, didn't several of of the networks INCREASE their Pay As You Go prices following the previous round of EU capping to compensate for lost revenu?
I for one would not be surprised to see them increase charges again for Pay As You Go users, contract customers will probably be safe as price increases usually mean you can end your contract early which the networks really don't like.
Anonymous Coward
79p/MB == £790/GB for data!! #
Posted Wednesday 24th September 2008 20:30 GMT
Surely if the banks can be forced to cut their penalty fees to bear some relation to the cost involved, then roaming data should be similarly treated. Disruptive analysis rather cheekily posted a suggested cost of about 2p/MB (which at £20/GB must still be North of the true cost, or the operators would be losing money. Charching 40 times that for the privilege of roaming is completely out of kilter with voice roaming caps being ~3 times and the proposed textcap of ~1-2 times (or a price reduction even!).
This legislation will come too late (July 2009 is a full 12 months after her 'drop-dead date' for the operators to reduce charges) and be as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit and as useful as a chocolate teapot for Mobile Broadband Users.
Nick
WHAT A PRICE #
Posted Wednesday 24th September 2008 23:35 GMT
WOW that means that I will be able to bring a forreign sim here to Spain and send SMS's cheaper than using my current Spanish contract SIM.
Well done Vivian...
druck
VAT #
Posted Thursday 25th September 2008 14:29 GMT
The figured quoted will be without VAT and local taxes, which will probably bump them up to more than pay in the UK.
I welcome it anyway, as I've just been hit by £65 of GPRS charges from logging on twice in Germany, at an extortionate £5/MB.
Roger Gelder
EU confirms .. & data roaming price caps #
Posted Tuesday 30th September 2008 15:15 GMT
I am still not impressed: "a £0.79 per megabyte limit" still feels like £79 ($ 140) for an evening's roaming of 100MB. Fortunately I have no interest in musak nor videos.
roj