So Jobs decides that it's OK for people to talk about the way the iPhone works.
Then he decides to screw over music artists by threatening to deny iPod and iPhone users access to new music. Why? Because the US Government thinks artists should earn more money from downloands.
Way to go Apple, you monopolistic b*st*rds.
Now's a chance for the Apple fanboys to prove they actually have a will of their own - boycot iTunes!!!
Ha! Apple Scraps Stock Value ... Tanks big time! #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 19:20 GMT
AAPL 110.47 -3.19 -2.81% (10/01/2008). Ya remember when it was $189 in May '08?
How's YOUR AAPL portfolio, AppleTards?
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ........
Ps. MSFT 26.83 +0.14 +0.52% (same day, same time)
Anonymous Coward
We don't need no stinkin' titles (othervise known as drop all tables) #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 19:20 GMT
I'm going to post it so the rest of you don't have to: People stealing apple IP? PCB (Pot, Kettle and so on...).
I just hope whoever wrote the apple pressrelease knows enough about computers and their short but colorful history to fully appreciate the irony of it all as he or she pressed the mousebutton to post it online.
I wonder if now that this NDA is killed off how long till FREE apps start appearing on the net? Seeing as it will show how everything is tied together and should allow people to skip Apples gold star program.
Just my 2 cents
/Paris because im sure its only a matter of time till we see her on the JesusPhone as well.
I predict Flash and Java will make a sudden and mysterious appearance on the iPhone once there is a whiff of them running on Android.
Of course it would be hilarious if Sun or Adobe then 'changed their minds' about allowing their code on the iPhone. Wonder how Jobs would like being on the receiving end. No doubt Apple's own versions 'iFlash' and 'iJava' would get created and be touted as the best thing ever, (albeit with more gay sounding names, obviously).
You must be pretty thick if you think a short term dip in AAPL is any indication of where the company is going. Take a look at AAPL vs MSFT over 1, 2, 3, 5 years and try tell me MSFT is a better investment. Aren't you getting tired of showing your ignorance here?
I can't decide if Webster, or amanfrommars is my favourite commenter. I'd love to see either of them given their own columns.
I have to say, the relationship between devs and apple seems to have "thank you sir may I have another" vibe to it. If it's so awful to develop for app store, why are they STILL doing it? Is the money THAT good?
Hooray for market power, hooray for Apple being forced to be less of a self-beholden, unfriendly and arrogant set of idiots, hooray for being able to share iPhone code.
"I'm going to post it so the rest of you don't have to: People stealing apple IP? PCB (Pot, Kettle and so on...)."
Apple bought FingerWorks in order to produce the iPhone. That's called buying IP, not stealing it.
"Then he decides to screw over music artists by threatening to deny iPod and iPhone users access to new music. Why? Because the US Government thinks artists should earn more money from downloands."
He said that proposed new rates would be likely to make the iTunes music store unprofitable and that they weren't going to continue to run it if it started generating losses. Luckily since the iPod and iPhone can play MP3s or AACs from any source this might affect how users obtain their music but would have no effect on their ability to obtain it or to listen to it.
@Webster Phreaky: Apple's stock remained remarkably unaffected by the stock market turbulence until it suddenly dropped back into line with the market. If I can find an artificial window where Apple went up but Microsoft went down, would that prove anything? Check out the Mac Pro benzine story for Apple (allegedly) being culpably stupid.
"No doubt Apple's own versions 'iFlash' and 'iJava' would get created and be touted as the best thing ever, (albeit with more gay sounding names, obviously)"
Like Microsofts own version. Silver-somethingorother.
Is this guy Webster a 15 year old WoW playing moron impersonating a 12 year old little boy or did he just buy the wrong phone and now regrets it?
(I love the iPhone, hate Job's and Apples arrogance (Genius bar, gimmee a break), will never buy a Mac, quite like buggy old XP but don't like Vista too much, so don't call me an Apple fanboi )
"Is this guy Webster a 15 year old WoW playing moron impersonating a 12 year old little boy or did he just buy the wrong phone and now regrets it?"
Nah, it's just Bill Gates and SB having a bit of a laugh trying to get a rise out of fanbois, bit like prodding a bear with a stick in a zoo, except nobody told him eventually the bear grabs the stick, pulls them into the cage, and rips them a new one.
What is the point of adding obscenities to an article about Apple's NDA. Try not using them in future and use inoffensive words if you want to make a point. There are many available in the dictionary.
Apple scraps iPhone NDA
Watashi
Jobs giveth... and Jobs taketh away #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 19:20 GMT
So Jobs decides that it's OK for people to talk about the way the iPhone works.
Then he decides to screw over music artists by threatening to deny iPod and iPhone users access to new music. Why? Because the US Government thinks artists should earn more money from downloands.
Way to go Apple, you monopolistic b*st*rds.
Now's a chance for the Apple fanboys to prove they actually have a will of their own - boycot iTunes!!!
Webster Phreaky
Ha! Apple Scraps Stock Value ... Tanks big time! #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 19:20 GMT
AAPL 110.47 -3.19 -2.81% (10/01/2008). Ya remember when it was $189 in May '08?
How's YOUR AAPL portfolio, AppleTards?
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ........
Ps. MSFT 26.83 +0.14 +0.52% (same day, same time)
Anonymous Coward
We don't need no stinkin' titles (othervise known as drop all tables) #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 19:20 GMT
I'm going to post it so the rest of you don't have to: People stealing apple IP? PCB (Pot, Kettle and so on...).
I just hope whoever wrote the apple pressrelease knows enough about computers and their short but colorful history to fully appreciate the irony of it all as he or she pressed the mousebutton to post it online.
Anonymous Coward
Flash & Java on the iPhone #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 19:20 GMT
Unlikely, as you wouldn't need Cocoa Touch to write Flash and Java apps, and so could therefore bypass the App Store completely.
I can't see Jobs being too keen on that.
James O'Brien
Yeah probably not first but #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 19:20 GMT
I wonder if now that this NDA is killed off how long till FREE apps start appearing on the net? Seeing as it will show how everything is tied together and should allow people to skip Apples gold star program.
Just my 2 cents
/Paris because im sure its only a matter of time till we see her on the JesusPhone as well.
Anonymous Coward
Flash and Java in 3..2..1.. #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 20:50 GMT
I predict Flash and Java will make a sudden and mysterious appearance on the iPhone once there is a whiff of them running on Android.
Of course it would be hilarious if Sun or Adobe then 'changed their minds' about allowing their code on the iPhone. Wonder how Jobs would like being on the receiving end. No doubt Apple's own versions 'iFlash' and 'iJava' would get created and be touted as the best thing ever, (albeit with more gay sounding names, obviously).
Tom Maddox
I've got it #
Posted Wednesday 1st October 2008 23:35 GMT
Webster Phreaky is amanfromMars run through the Twat-O-Tron!
Richard Drysdall
No NDA != No Contract #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:24 GMT
Just because the NDA is being removed doesn't mean that the developers aren't still under contract! It's not a free-for-all - no 'free' apps for you!
Anonymous Coward
NDA only removed for RELEASED software? #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:24 GMT
What does this mean?
Does this mean the developers still can't talk about anything they've not released yet (including anything that Apple rejects)?
David Kelly
@Webster Phreaky #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:24 GMT
You must be pretty thick if you think a short term dip in AAPL is any indication of where the company is going. Take a look at AAPL vs MSFT over 1, 2, 3, 5 years and try tell me MSFT is a better investment. Aren't you getting tired of showing your ignorance here?
Anonymous Coward
Choices #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 09:24 GMT
I can't decide if Webster, or amanfrommars is my favourite commenter. I'd love to see either of them given their own columns.
I have to say, the relationship between devs and apple seems to have "thank you sir may I have another" vibe to it. If it's so awful to develop for app store, why are they STILL doing it? Is the money THAT good?
Thomas
@everyone in the world #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 11:14 GMT
Hooray for market power, hooray for Apple being forced to be less of a self-beholden, unfriendly and arrogant set of idiots, hooray for being able to share iPhone code.
"I'm going to post it so the rest of you don't have to: People stealing apple IP? PCB (Pot, Kettle and so on...)."
Apple bought FingerWorks in order to produce the iPhone. That's called buying IP, not stealing it.
"Then he decides to screw over music artists by threatening to deny iPod and iPhone users access to new music. Why? Because the US Government thinks artists should earn more money from downloands."
He said that proposed new rates would be likely to make the iTunes music store unprofitable and that they weren't going to continue to run it if it started generating losses. Luckily since the iPod and iPhone can play MP3s or AACs from any source this might affect how users obtain their music but would have no effect on their ability to obtain it or to listen to it.
@Webster Phreaky: Apple's stock remained remarkably unaffected by the stock market turbulence until it suddenly dropped back into line with the market. If I can find an artificial window where Apple went up but Microsoft went down, would that prove anything? Check out the Mac Pro benzine story for Apple (allegedly) being culpably stupid.
Wize
Re: Flash and Java in 3..2..1.. #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 12:52 GMT
"No doubt Apple's own versions 'iFlash' and 'iJava' would get created and be touted as the best thing ever, (albeit with more gay sounding names, obviously)"
Like Microsofts own version. Silver-somethingorother.
Anonymous Coward
@Webster Phreaky #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 12:52 GMT
Is this guy Webster a 15 year old WoW playing moron impersonating a 12 year old little boy or did he just buy the wrong phone and now regrets it?
(I love the iPhone, hate Job's and Apples arrogance (Genius bar, gimmee a break), will never buy a Mac, quite like buggy old XP but don't like Vista too much, so don't call me an Apple fanboi )
Law
oh god #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 14:09 GMT
"we are dropping it for released software"
Which means the next version of the sdk & tools will be in perpetual beta form, just like Google.
Steve
Webster, you're slipping. #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 14:57 GMT
Surely you could have found a way to blame it on the "librul muslim immgrunts" if you tried had enough.
Law
@Webster Phreaky #
Posted Thursday 2nd October 2008 15:41 GMT
"Is this guy Webster a 15 year old WoW playing moron impersonating a 12 year old little boy or did he just buy the wrong phone and now regrets it?"
Nah, it's just Bill Gates and SB having a bit of a laugh trying to get a rise out of fanbois, bit like prodding a bear with a stick in a zoo, except nobody told him eventually the bear grabs the stick, pulls them into the cage, and rips them a new one.
Brian Mackenzie
Are obscenities really needed? #
Posted Tuesday 7th October 2008 23:28 GMT
What is the point of adding obscenities to an article about Apple's NDA. Try not using them in future and use inoffensive words if you want to make a point. There are many available in the dictionary.