No WiFi - unthinkable in this class of phone now! #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:17 GMT
What is it with RIM? They produce the Bold full to the brim with connectivity options, then they bring out the Storm and the new Curve but neuter each by removing one connection type! No WiFi, No 3G - crazy!
It just leaves the Storm open to critics that it's not going to be as good as the iPhone because it hasn't got WiFi - why RIM, why?
I'll stick to my Bold until they bring out v2 of the Storm.
Were'nt they the same telco that crippled the N95 (stripping) the VOIP wi-fi apps ?
Anonymous Coward
They want you to use their network so they make money #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:32 GMT
Vodafone aren't offering WiFi because they want you to use their network and therefore get your money. I guess they will want to recoup the investment made in this Vodafone "purpose built" device before offering WiFi later which will reduce their revenue.
Also VOIP may not be possible when WiFi eventually does come, going on Vodafone's previous tactics of 'phones like the N95 with their firmware having it disabled.
""Vodafone argues that punters won't need Wi-Fi because its HSDPA network is sufficient. Well, maybe if you live in a city or major town. If not, you'll be connecting at no more than standard 3G's 384Kb/s and in outlying areas not even that.""
So outlying areas have WiFi hotspots do they? I think you'd be far more likely to find a 3.6 Mbps HS cell nearby than a WiFi AP. If you're talking about using your own AP, fair do's, but you can't claim that public WiFi has a bigger footprint than HS!
The screen feels pretty weird to press, waiting for it to release each time will slow down touch typers.
Wifi speeds far outdo any of the other types of transfer on smartphones these days. It will be far in the future when anyone can be believed when they say "the mobile networks are sufficiently fast that wifi is not needed".
I'd have a damn sight more respect for them if they just openly said "we care more about profit margins than your ease of use and connectivity". We all know it's true for all the operators, why do they still bother lying and alienating people even more?
Yet another supposed "iPhone killer" bites the dust - nice own goal voda!
Wifi is essential these days if you want to do more than send and receive emails. I use my home wifi on my iphone as I can't get HSDPA in the sticks :(
Do you all not realise that Vodafone were pushed into releasing a BlackBerry with Wi-Fi....... They are following the HSDPA route as O2 are with EDGE, only difference here is the likes of Orange, T-Mobile and 3 will happily release Wi-Fi devices to entice the custom to their depleating networks.........
Wi-Fi is not a policy of Vodafone and won't be for some time...
BlackBerry Storm to blow in next week - minus Wi-Fi
dervheid
Yet another launch #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:17 GMT
of a crippled ship.
Don't see the point of this without the wi-fi capability.
Vodaphone; FAIL
Taomyn
No WiFi - unthinkable in this class of phone now! #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:17 GMT
What is it with RIM? They produce the Bold full to the brim with connectivity options, then they bring out the Storm and the new Curve but neuter each by removing one connection type! No WiFi, No 3G - crazy!
It just leaves the Storm open to critics that it's not going to be as good as the iPhone because it hasn't got WiFi - why RIM, why?
I'll stick to my Bold until they bring out v2 of the Storm.
Chris
No WiFi?!?!?!?! #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:17 GMT
This is almost as bad as Apple initially launching the Jesus phone without 3G
Paris: 'Cos even she's not that stoopid
gautam
Bastards all ! #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:32 GMT
Were'nt they the same telco that crippled the N95 (stripping) the VOIP wi-fi apps ?
Anonymous Coward
They want you to use their network so they make money #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:32 GMT
Vodafone aren't offering WiFi because they want you to use their network and therefore get your money. I guess they will want to recoup the investment made in this Vodafone "purpose built" device before offering WiFi later which will reduce their revenue.
Also VOIP may not be possible when WiFi eventually does come, going on Vodafone's previous tactics of 'phones like the N95 with their firmware having it disabled.
Anonymous Coward
Try seeing it from the Vodacons point of view #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 12:43 GMT
WiFi does not equal revenue and there is a recession going on so MD might be lucky to get a 10% rise this year
Jonathan Hogg
How is this an iPhone killer then? #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 13:40 GMT
It costs £300 on an 18 month contract and it doesn't have WiFi!?
Even Paris wouldn't be seen dead with one of these surely?
Anonymous Coward
Well then... #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 13:40 GMT
The X1 it is then! Thanks Vodaphone for making the decision easier! :)
Anonymous Coward
Public WiFi more Coverage than 3G??!!?? #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 15:21 GMT
""Vodafone argues that punters won't need Wi-Fi because its HSDPA network is sufficient. Well, maybe if you live in a city or major town. If not, you'll be connecting at no more than standard 3G's 384Kb/s and in outlying areas not even that.""
So outlying areas have WiFi hotspots do they? I think you'd be far more likely to find a 3.6 Mbps HS cell nearby than a WiFi AP. If you're talking about using your own AP, fair do's, but you can't claim that public WiFi has a bigger footprint than HS!
The screen feels pretty weird to press, waiting for it to release each time will slow down touch typers.
Anonymous Coward
@ Chris #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 15:21 GMT
... no, it's much more tucking retarded than that.
Aetyr
Give us a break. #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 15:21 GMT
Wifi speeds far outdo any of the other types of transfer on smartphones these days. It will be far in the future when anyone can be believed when they say "the mobile networks are sufficiently fast that wifi is not needed".
I'd have a damn sight more respect for them if they just openly said "we care more about profit margins than your ease of use and connectivity". We all know it's true for all the operators, why do they still bother lying and alienating people even more?
Philip Bune
Duhhhhhh! #
Posted Thursday 6th November 2008 15:33 GMT
Well that's a bit of a bugger, I was planning on getting one of the Storms to replace my aged brick.
Looks like I will be holding off for a while until that option is available as it was a key feature I wanted.
Adam Hart
LOL #
Posted Friday 7th November 2008 17:21 GMT
Yet another supposed "iPhone killer" bites the dust - nice own goal voda!
Wifi is essential these days if you want to do more than send and receive emails. I use my home wifi on my iphone as I can't get HSDPA in the sticks :(
Anonymous Coward
Vodafone Wi-Fi #
Posted Thursday 20th November 2008 20:40 GMT
Do you all not realise that Vodafone were pushed into releasing a BlackBerry with Wi-Fi....... They are following the HSDPA route as O2 are with EDGE, only difference here is the likes of Orange, T-Mobile and 3 will happily release Wi-Fi devices to entice the custom to their depleating networks.........
Wi-Fi is not a policy of Vodafone and won't be for some time...