There are loads of cameras on the market that will email pictures or video to you when they detect motion. Some of them are even POE so don't need the mains lead. What is "new" here?
You could contact a *professional* CCTV supplier, get some *professional* advice and a full system for around half the price. Much less than half price for a system with four or more cameras.
If the perp switches off the mains (just trip the mains RCB, not the lights one!!) then the cameras don't work. Even with a UPS system on the computer (and hopefully cameras in a professional setup with coax/USB/wifi), it's cheaper than £199/camera to run over dead mains.
It's free (although Linux instead of windows) - and supports sending out the alerts as videos as well as automatically sending them to a remote server.
I've used it with a load of 55GBP wireless cameras, and it's working quite nicely for the small company that's using it.
That must mean something different in the reg headquarters (the pub?) to the rest of the UK.
Apart from having the mains networking built in, there's nothing on offer here that couldn't be done much more cheaply.
Email alerts (or ftp uploads) aren't anything new, they've been around for ages.
IP Cameras cost less than the £199 wanted for each additional camera, and a standard usb plugged one would be even cheaper (but less useful).
The cheapest IP Camera on dabs is only just over £50, for just over £100 you can have one with pan/tilt and zoom.
The only thing you need in addition to that is the software to monitor them, unless the logitech software is really really special it doesn't justify the price they are charging for any of the kit.
Conclusion - logitech is massively over priced but does provide the convenience of a one stop shop, 20%.
@Mark_T: GeoVision? Pfft. Clearly you want to pay to upgrade next week then. And pay again to upgrade four weeks later. And pay again after that.. then there's the total lack of compatibility with any other products... avoid.
May I recommend i-Catcher Console? (http://www.icode.co.uk/icatcher/products/console.html) Very cheap and compatible with many manufacturers. They even have a CCTV shop to buy components and systems from.
I think the whole point about this kit is that you plug it in to the mains. You plug a USB dongle in to your computer and install some software and it just all works. There is no messing around with IP addresses (or rather no knowledge of IP addresses in needed). Also from what I have read else where, there is quite a bit of processing power in each camera over and above the normal IP cameras.
Totally over priced all the same but I guess you pay for convenience.
Aren't their wireless keyboards and mice preposterously unsecure?
Last I heard a hacking team had worked out their woeful wireless signal encryption, turned out it could be hacked in a fraction of a second.
...And we're meant to trust them with an extortionately priced camera security system!?
We'll see how long it takes before hacking team reports come in where such cams are being hacked into. Throw a towel over them when surfing the porn eh lads!
Why the need for a subscription (even if it is a free subscription) to some proprietary service to receive email alerts? My little Y-cam IP camera sends me motion detection email alerts directly through my ISP's mail server without any need for registration or subscription. It also doesn't need any special software on my PC, indeed it doesn't even need the PC to be on (great for saving power), because the motion detection and emailing is done right from the camera. It has its shortcomings, for example wireless networking with WPA2 security being unreliable, and lack of PoE (a moot point if you are using wireless), but for around £130 I'm quite happy.
It's cheap compared to some .. I know it's a bit more professional and it's what they are experts in, but Axis charge around £600 per camera for anything of decent quality. And they also have the ability to e-mail the footage (although if your a business that can afford such a system you can afford to lock the server running Axis Camera Station away so it can't be stolen)
I understand where Logitech's coming from - they're targeting folks who're NOT tech experts and who can't be bothered with setups, cabling, Linux, etc. These are people who have money, trust the Logitech brand, are comfortable with non-tech DIY... a large large market, IMO.
While I'm at it, another service targeting similar folks (though its free and webcam based) is HomeCamera (http://www.homecamera.com). No video streaming (only video clips), though that's set to change early 2009. Motion detection alerts (including videos) are sent direct to mobile phones, storage is all server based, sharing is easy, scheduling of recording is easy, yada yada yada. Covered by Technofile on Sky News a few months ago (the video should still be there somewhere...)
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Duncan Hothersall
I must be missing something #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 10:43 GMT
There are loads of cameras on the market that will email pictures or video to you when they detect motion. Some of them are even POE so don't need the mains lead. What is "new" here?
Simon Dax
Or alternatively... #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 11:40 GMT
You could contact a *professional* CCTV supplier, get some *professional* advice and a full system for around half the price. Much less than half price for a system with four or more cameras.
Adrian
Small problem #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 11:40 GMT
If the perp switches off the mains (just trip the mains RCB, not the lights one!!) then the cameras don't work. Even with a UPS system on the computer (and hopefully cameras in a professional setup with coax/USB/wifi), it's cheaper than £199/camera to run over dead mains.
Graham Wood
Sounds like a cut down version of Zoneminder... #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 11:40 GMT
http://www.zoneminder.com/
It's free (although Linux instead of windows) - and supports sending out the alerts as videos as well as automatically sending them to a remote server.
I've used it with a load of 55GBP wireless cameras, and it's working quite nicely for the small company that's using it.
lIsRT
Or... #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 11:41 GMT
Seems expensive - this guy probably did it for less:
http://www.grisby.org/burglar.html
Mark_T
Toys R us ! #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 11:41 GMT
Mickey Mouse products like this don't compare to mature, professional CCTV security products.
http://www.geovision.com.tw/english/product/GV-SystemV8200_Feature.htm
Still affordable and not made by a mouse & keyboard manufacturer !
Steve
Low cost? #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 11:41 GMT
That must mean something different in the reg headquarters (the pub?) to the rest of the UK.
Apart from having the mains networking built in, there's nothing on offer here that couldn't be done much more cheaply.
Email alerts (or ftp uploads) aren't anything new, they've been around for ages.
IP Cameras cost less than the £199 wanted for each additional camera, and a standard usb plugged one would be even cheaper (but less useful).
The cheapest IP Camera on dabs is only just over £50, for just over £100 you can have one with pan/tilt and zoom.
The only thing you need in addition to that is the software to monitor them, unless the logitech software is really really special it doesn't justify the price they are charging for any of the kit.
Conclusion - logitech is massively over priced but does provide the convenience of a one stop shop, 20%.
M
Good idea #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 11:41 GMT
But its ludicrously priced. I could build my own for a 5th of the price of an extra camera.
Anonymous Coward
Not special, not cheap. #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 13:20 GMT
What would be special is if it didn't need to plug into a computer, and uploaded the pictures/videos itself.
Looks like I will be cutting phone lines when entering buildings from now on.
Richard
Re: CCTV #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 13:20 GMT
@Simon Dax: Couldn't agree more...
@Mark_T: GeoVision? Pfft. Clearly you want to pay to upgrade next week then. And pay again to upgrade four weeks later. And pay again after that.. then there's the total lack of compatibility with any other products... avoid.
May I recommend i-Catcher Console? (http://www.icode.co.uk/icatcher/products/console.html) Very cheap and compatible with many manufacturers. They even have a CCTV shop to buy components and systems from.
-- Richard
Paul Hanley
Plug and play #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 13:20 GMT
I think the whole point about this kit is that you plug it in to the mains. You plug a USB dongle in to your computer and install some software and it just all works. There is no messing around with IP addresses (or rather no knowledge of IP addresses in needed). Also from what I have read else where, there is quite a bit of processing power in each camera over and above the normal IP cameras.
Totally over priced all the same but I guess you pay for convenience.
Stu
security!? #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 14:43 GMT
Aren't their wireless keyboards and mice preposterously unsecure?
Last I heard a hacking team had worked out their woeful wireless signal encryption, turned out it could be hacked in a fraction of a second.
...And we're meant to trust them with an extortionately priced camera security system!?
We'll see how long it takes before hacking team reports come in where such cams are being hacked into. Throw a towel over them when surfing the porn eh lads!
Dale
Subscription #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 18:52 GMT
Why the need for a subscription (even if it is a free subscription) to some proprietary service to receive email alerts? My little Y-cam IP camera sends me motion detection email alerts directly through my ISP's mail server without any need for registration or subscription. It also doesn't need any special software on my PC, indeed it doesn't even need the PC to be on (great for saving power), because the motion detection and emailing is done right from the camera. It has its shortcomings, for example wireless networking with WPA2 security being unreliable, and lack of PoE (a moot point if you are using wireless), but for around £130 I'm quite happy.
IR
Me #
Posted Wednesday 3rd December 2008 18:52 GMT
I haven't come across a single video security system that doesn't email/text you. Unless you consider an ordinary webcam...
Anonymous Coward
Not new .. #
Posted Thursday 4th December 2008 14:07 GMT
It's cheap compared to some .. I know it's a bit more professional and it's what they are experts in, but Axis charge around £600 per camera for anything of decent quality. And they also have the ability to e-mail the footage (although if your a business that can afford such a system you can afford to lock the server running Axis Camera Station away so it can't be stolen)
varun
Try HomeCamera #
Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 10:10 GMT
I understand where Logitech's coming from - they're targeting folks who're NOT tech experts and who can't be bothered with setups, cabling, Linux, etc. These are people who have money, trust the Logitech brand, are comfortable with non-tech DIY... a large large market, IMO.
While I'm at it, another service targeting similar folks (though its free and webcam based) is HomeCamera (http://www.homecamera.com). No video streaming (only video clips), though that's set to change early 2009. Motion detection alerts (including videos) are sent direct to mobile phones, storage is all server based, sharing is easy, scheduling of recording is easy, yada yada yada. Covered by Technofile on Sky News a few months ago (the video should still be there somewhere...)