We're going to have to start implementing advertising standards rules on just what counts as a "full" qwerty keyboard.
As far as I am concerned, if there's no "\", no "|" and no "PgUp"/"PgDown" it's nowhere near "full". I can live without PgUp, but unless there's a simple "/" and "\", it's worthless.
I'm glad I didn't wait for it to come out, slow and unresponsive is the nokia way by the looks of the videos I have seen of it. Ditched Nokia after a N95. Now rocking a HTC Touch HD on winmo, much better phone.
Pointless, slow, cluttered, glossy N-series device. How come those N-devices all have the aura of expensive plastic toys when the E-series developed next door is so nice and smooth, and why can't we have the "entertainment" qualities of the N-series in E-quality devices?
Also there seems to be one HELL of a wall between Nokia's techs (who really know stuff) and their marketing droids (who quite frankly don't). 32MB onboard storage apparently - the Nineties just called, they want their phone back.
Of course he means 32GB (I really, really hope) but what were Nokia thinking letting this genius get anywhere near their route to market?
Smiley because I'm still laughing after watching that.
The Nokia's not even out yet and the iPhone has been out for two years.
Nokia, as with the other mobile manufacturers, is playing catchup. The iPhone remains the standard the others are aiming for and your sad 'journos' have to keen repeating the 'iPhone killer' type mantra.
I'm all for the competitors trying to out-do the iPhone but Apple will probably keep their offering ahead of the game.
One of the reasons I dumped my XDA IIs was just the size of it, and also the fact that typing SMSs on it was a pain in the rectum. Even using the stylus didn't make it as usable as a normal phone.
So, seeing a qwerty keyboard on the N97 should be good... but the blinking size of it!
People'll be thinking I dress both to the left and the right.
For all the people complaining about the size of the thing: For some reason this video really exaggerates it. I've seen other pics with side-by-side comparisons with the iPhone and the N97 is smaller.
The UI looks better at least than the current S60 UI (in both touch and no-touch variants) but it clearly could use a lot of polish, particularly in the area of transitions. Instant visual feedback for all touch actions is key.
I was actually much more impressed by this phone before I say the Pre demo....
Really ... if you're trying to go for the "iPhone killer", size doesn't matter. The iPhone *itself* is a huge-ass phone! I mean, the damn thing is larger than my Blackberry 8300, and I still think my Curve is big!
If anything, I prefer clamshell phones. However, now that I've been sold on the Blackberries, I think I'll have to wait until a QWERTY clamshell model comes out...
but, they need to refine the GUI some more. As it is, it's like they've just migrated the old "point and click" paradigm to a touch interface. In other words, it's a bolt-on.
While this is fine, for now, other manufacturers have already surpassed this with multi-touch gesturing - Apple, HTC and Palm come to mind. And, if Nokia really wants to be a leader, then they'll need to either get on board with this new paradigm, and refine it. Or, invent sometime else that surpasses it. I'd personally like to see them do the latter.
What I'd really like to see is something that moves beyond touch screen altogether. Instead of actually having to touch the screen - messy, in my opinion - why not enable users to just gesture above it? Perhaps an under screen camera and proximity sensors could accomplish this.
HTC Touch HD Pocket PC
MWg Zinc II
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Touch Diamond2
Palm Treo Pro Smartphone
Nokia N97 touchscreen webphone demo'd
Mike Peachey
"Full" QWERTY keyboard? #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 11:41 GMT
I think not!
We're going to have to start implementing advertising standards rules on just what counts as a "full" qwerty keyboard.
As far as I am concerned, if there's no "\", no "|" and no "PgUp"/"PgDown" it's nowhere near "full". I can live without PgUp, but unless there's a simple "/" and "\", it's worthless.
Bill Fresher
Size #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 11:41 GMT
It's huge!! and looks like it weighs about half a kilo.
Dan White
Ummm.... #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 12:12 GMT
Could have been an interesting video, but I found myself irritated by the number of times the presenter stopped to say, "Ahhh", "Ummm" etc...
Phone looks nice though :-)
Geeks and Lies
32MB on board storage for *&^%'s sake! #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 12:12 GMT
Dear Mr Nokia,
You are a dumb ass.
Regards,
GeeksAndLies
Scott K
After watching that #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 12:12 GMT
I'm glad I didn't wait for it to come out, slow and unresponsive is the nokia way by the looks of the videos I have seen of it. Ditched Nokia after a N95. Now rocking a HTC Touch HD on winmo, much better phone.
Niall S
Er, GeeksAnd Lies... #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 14:08 GMT
Not had a chance to check the video yet, but it has 32GB on board - and a slot to add another 16GB.
Bad Beaver
Yawn #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 15:35 GMT
Pointless, slow, cluttered, glossy N-series device. How come those N-devices all have the aura of expensive plastic toys when the E-series developed next door is so nice and smooth, and why can't we have the "entertainment" qualities of the N-series in E-quality devices?
Daniel
I'm with Dan White #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 16:39 GMT
Irritated the hell out of me too. Umm...
Also there seems to be one HELL of a wall between Nokia's techs (who really know stuff) and their marketing droids (who quite frankly don't). 32MB onboard storage apparently - the Nineties just called, they want their phone back.
Of course he means 32GB (I really, really hope) but what were Nokia thinking letting this genius get anywhere near their route to market?
Smiley because I'm still laughing after watching that.
Antidisestablishmentarianist
Good luck with that Nokia #
Posted Friday 9th January 2009 20:54 GMT
You'll need it.
telecine
Oh dear! #
Posted Saturday 10th January 2009 11:06 GMT
I'll stick with the iPhone.... Nokia are offering nothing new.. Back to the drawing board for you lads!
Emo
LED Flash #
Posted Sunday 11th January 2009 04:44 GMT
So still shit in the dark then?
Ascylto
Stitch that ... #
Posted Monday 12th January 2009 11:09 GMT
"Stitch that, iPhone"
What?
The Nokia's not even out yet and the iPhone has been out for two years.
Nokia, as with the other mobile manufacturers, is playing catchup. The iPhone remains the standard the others are aiming for and your sad 'journos' have to keen repeating the 'iPhone killer' type mantra.
I'm all for the competitors trying to out-do the iPhone but Apple will probably keep their offering ahead of the game.
Nicholas Wright
*sigh* #
Posted Monday 12th January 2009 11:34 GMT
One of the reasons I dumped my XDA IIs was just the size of it, and also the fact that typing SMSs on it was a pain in the rectum. Even using the stylus didn't make it as usable as a normal phone.
So, seeing a qwerty keyboard on the N97 should be good... but the blinking size of it!
People'll be thinking I dress both to the left and the right.
Hmm....
Mike
Size... #
Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 14:45 GMT
For all the people complaining about the size of the thing: For some reason this video really exaggerates it. I've seen other pics with side-by-side comparisons with the iPhone and the N97 is smaller.
The UI looks better at least than the current S60 UI (in both touch and no-touch variants) but it clearly could use a lot of polish, particularly in the area of transitions. Instant visual feedback for all touch actions is key.
I was actually much more impressed by this phone before I say the Pre demo....
Damir Colak
Unresponsive UI #
Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 20:19 GMT
Whoa, that is one unresponsive UI...
Hitting the video name three times just to start it... WTF?!
Daniel B.
Huge-ass phone? #
Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 20:19 GMT
Really ... if you're trying to go for the "iPhone killer", size doesn't matter. The iPhone *itself* is a huge-ass phone! I mean, the damn thing is larger than my Blackberry 8300, and I still think my Curve is big!
If anything, I prefer clamshell phones. However, now that I've been sold on the Blackberries, I think I'll have to wait until a QWERTY clamshell model comes out...
Anonymous Coward
uhm... #
Posted Tuesday 13th January 2009 23:38 GMT
32MB + 16GB = 48GB ???
srfvwrtgvwdefvsduygvcsdgjvcwdeuygvf makes about as much friggin sense!!!
Chris
He said meg #
Posted Wednesday 14th January 2009 10:51 GMT
He meant gig. It's a mistake you twats.
Bill
I like it... #
Posted Thursday 15th January 2009 10:13 GMT
but, they need to refine the GUI some more. As it is, it's like they've just migrated the old "point and click" paradigm to a touch interface. In other words, it's a bolt-on.
While this is fine, for now, other manufacturers have already surpassed this with multi-touch gesturing - Apple, HTC and Palm come to mind. And, if Nokia really wants to be a leader, then they'll need to either get on board with this new paradigm, and refine it. Or, invent sometime else that surpasses it. I'd personally like to see them do the latter.
What I'd really like to see is something that moves beyond touch screen altogether. Instead of actually having to touch the screen - messy, in my opinion - why not enable users to just gesture above it? Perhaps an under screen camera and proximity sensors could accomplish this.
Mac Phreak
Soooo... #
Posted Wednesday 21st January 2009 19:37 GMT
Nokia's entry in the "iPhone killer" catagory is...
A BAD IPHONE CLONE!!!
N95/96 lovers, whatever....
OS
meh #
Posted Thursday 22nd January 2009 13:07 GMT
Step 1) Take kick ass existing product
Step 2) Fuck it up
Step 3) ???
Step 4) Profit