If you read the latest posts from the links in your own story you'll see people are saying the issue is fixed in the update that Apple released yesterday (2.2.1)
I've had both the original and now 3G iPhone, never had a problem with this. I am running on the latest firmware.....
Some may call it beta testers, but other Phone manufacturers should take a leave out of Apple's book and actually post some software updates....My old Nokia E65 has so many defects and never an update...So is that beta testing or good customer service?I rather have the phone with the bugs that get fixed rather than the phone with the bugs that don't...And lets face it they all have bugs even my old Nokia 2110i
to be honest, I can't stand 3G phones. Too complex for their own good. Most of the 2G phones have enough irritating glitches/habbits or functionality that is infuriatingly obtuse to the point where the feature become almost unusable.
I've not heard from a single friend who hasn't had his/her 3G phone crash or break on them.
Slide/flip phones lose their earpeice speaker with alarming regularity, screens develop random verticle lines as the LCD data connections wear out.
They're pre-designed with a finite lifespan to ensure the market doesn't get flooded.
The last phone I truly loved, that served me reliably and robustly was my old Nokia 7210.
It never locked up,
never dropped a call,
never continued ringing after pressing answer,
allowed ring and vibrate AT THE SAME TIME (whats the point in loading it with ringtones if you always answer before they play?!),
didn't butt in and insert random words while writing a text,
the screen updated in almost real time, opposed to phones that take so long to display "message sent" it's interferring with your ability to read the reply
didn't have a bloated OS on an underpowered CPU - this seems to be the industry standard nowadays
it didn't auto download updates that removed certain features
it didn't bury the silent feature under a thousand sub-menus
it had PC connectivity software that actually worked
and, if the casing got cracked or scratched, you could pop down the market and buy a replacement in one of a million different styles for less than a fiver.
I believe phones have gotten worse, not better in recent years
Is the iPhone meant to be the latest and greatest?
My Nokia 6210 hasn't muttered a peep of problems since I got in 2001... and the battery lasts about 5 days of moderate use! I can SMS and call people from it. That's what phones do...
well mine came off change this morning before i left for work - i upgraded to 2.2.1 last night - according to the usage screen it's been on standby for 5hours 45minutes and in use for 2hours 17minutes.
that 2 hours has been pretty much constant music playing on the journey to work and the last hour when i went out for a walk at lunch
C'mon Apple sort this out. I'm getting fed up of being ribbed about this by my non-iPhone work colleagues and it's driving me to distraction (hence reading the Reg when I'm supposed to be building a server :)
Typical apple, form over function! I hate my iPhone and am not surprised to read about yet another ignored bug. Apple software is written by graphics designers, not programmers...
@Mark and @G Plumb: I've owned a LOT of mobile phones and while the iPhone may have the occasional short-coming, it's still EASILY the greatest piece of mobile technology I've ever had.
"If you bought an iPhone, clearly you bought it because it was cool, not because of what it does/does not do."
- The iPhone is cool BECAUSE of what it does do, and how it does it. If you don't understand that then fine, but don't waste everyone's time telling us why we bought it because you're getting it wrong.
@ G Plumb
"Typical apple, form over function! I hate my iPhone and am not surprised to read about yet another ignored bug. Apple software is written by graphics designers, not programmers..."
Three cheers for The Reg for an extremely balanced Apple-related article? If only the internet had a few more of those...
Anonymous Coward
Yes, but what about all the other SMS/MMS problems with iPhone #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 19:50 GMT
I have an iPhone 3G, not because it is cool but because things like the mapping and app system are simply brilliantly well-designed and a pleasure to use.
But Apple really needs to sort out the still-poor SMS implementation. Really *basic* features are still not there:
- No forwarding of SMS
- No copy and paste
- No native MMS support at all; one app that has appeared is a kludgy workaround
Seriously people, if you don't like Apples products, that's fine. Don't buy them. I don't own any Apple products because I find that other manufacturers products suit my need better, but I don't waste mine and other people's time moaning about products I don't even use.
You're all just reminding me of the C64/Spectrum/BBC Model B and Amiga/Atari ST arguments of my childhood, either grow up or realise you're no longer children shouting "mine's better" in the fecking playground at school and lambasting people who choose something different to you.
You missed out Atari 400/800 with C64/Spectrum/BBC Model B
Seriously though, I agree. This rivalry is akin to championing football teams. You don't get these arguments with "My BMW 3 Series is better then your Mercedes C class" - people choose what suits them and live with it.
Mark
Works fine on... #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 11:42 GMT
Not just posting to sound "hard" or "cool", but I have no probs on Vodafone UK...
dervheid
Heads... #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 11:42 GMT
in the sand, it seems.
Anonymous Coward
No Suprise #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 11:49 GMT
Apple never made a phone before so there are lots & lots of Beta testers finding it out the hard way.
Seamaster
Problems? What problems? #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 12:08 GMT
I'm on a plain-old O2 iPhone SIM, and SMS has never skipped a beat for me.
Anonymous Coward
Do you read your own links? #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 12:08 GMT
If you read the latest posts from the links in your own story you'll see people are saying the issue is fixed in the update that Apple released yesterday (2.2.1)
Jean-Paul
Two iPhones and no problems #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 12:09 GMT
I've had both the original and now 3G iPhone, never had a problem with this. I am running on the latest firmware.....
Some may call it beta testers, but other Phone manufacturers should take a leave out of Apple's book and actually post some software updates....My old Nokia E65 has so many defects and never an update...So is that beta testing or good customer service?I rather have the phone with the bugs that get fixed rather than the phone with the bugs that don't...And lets face it they all have bugs even my old Nokia 2110i
chris
Forget the SMS problems..... #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 12:21 GMT
......what about the damn battery issues. Since teh 2.2 update i dont even get 6 hours without charging - on 2.1 i could get 24hrs + easily!
DT
Gotta love that flawed logic #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 14:13 GMT
I've got a car and it's never broken down - therefore anyone who claims that this make of car breaks down is a liar.
Anecdotes != evidence
Psymon
Apple pretending a problem doesn't exist? #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 14:13 GMT
surely not!
It's not like they've behaved like that before.
</sarcasm>
to be honest, I can't stand 3G phones. Too complex for their own good. Most of the 2G phones have enough irritating glitches/habbits or functionality that is infuriatingly obtuse to the point where the feature become almost unusable.
I've not heard from a single friend who hasn't had his/her 3G phone crash or break on them.
Slide/flip phones lose their earpeice speaker with alarming regularity, screens develop random verticle lines as the LCD data connections wear out.
They're pre-designed with a finite lifespan to ensure the market doesn't get flooded.
The last phone I truly loved, that served me reliably and robustly was my old Nokia 7210.
It never locked up,
never dropped a call,
never continued ringing after pressing answer,
allowed ring and vibrate AT THE SAME TIME (whats the point in loading it with ringtones if you always answer before they play?!),
didn't butt in and insert random words while writing a text,
the screen updated in almost real time, opposed to phones that take so long to display "message sent" it's interferring with your ability to read the reply
didn't have a bloated OS on an underpowered CPU - this seems to be the industry standard nowadays
it didn't auto download updates that removed certain features
it didn't bury the silent feature under a thousand sub-menus
it had PC connectivity software that actually worked
and, if the casing got cracked or scratched, you could pop down the market and buy a replacement in one of a million different styles for less than a fiver.
I believe phones have gotten worse, not better in recent years
Big Bear
Problems? What problems? #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 14:13 GMT
Is the iPhone meant to be the latest and greatest?
My Nokia 6210 hasn't muttered a peep of problems since I got in 2001... and the battery lasts about 5 days of moderate use! I can SMS and call people from it. That's what phones do...
jai
re: Forget the SMS problems..... #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 14:13 GMT
well mine came off change this morning before i left for work - i upgraded to 2.2.1 last night - according to the usage screen it's been on standby for 5hours 45minutes and in use for 2hours 17minutes.
that 2 hours has been pretty much constant music playing on the journey to work and the last hour when i went out for a walk at lunch
the battery indicator is at 90% - 85% at worst
Rob
You're a bit late... #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 15:12 GMT
This is apparently fixed in the latest update 2.2.1
Benny
works ok #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 15:12 GMT
on 2.2 jailbroken 3g
Mark
Does it actually matter? #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 15:12 GMT
If you bought an iPhone, clearly you bought it because it was cool, not because of what it does/does not do.
As with all Apple products, it's 99% image/marketing 1% substance.
Steve Button
I can't FORWARD a text. #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 15:12 GMT
Is this the bug they are talking about?
C'mon Apple sort this out. I'm getting fed up of being ribbed about this by my non-iPhone work colleagues and it's driving me to distraction (hence reading the Reg when I'm supposed to be building a server :)
G Plumb
Typical apple... #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 15:12 GMT
Typical apple, form over function! I hate my iPhone and am not surprised to read about yet another ignored bug. Apple software is written by graphics designers, not programmers...
Paul Livingstone
Rubbish... #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 16:53 GMT
@Mark and @G Plumb: I've owned a LOT of mobile phones and while the iPhone may have the occasional short-coming, it's still EASILY the greatest piece of mobile technology I've ever had.
B
Replies to trolls #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 16:53 GMT
@Mark
"If you bought an iPhone, clearly you bought it because it was cool, not because of what it does/does not do."
- The iPhone is cool BECAUSE of what it does do, and how it does it. If you don't understand that then fine, but don't waste everyone's time telling us why we bought it because you're getting it wrong.
@ G Plumb
"Typical apple, form over function! I hate my iPhone and am not surprised to read about yet another ignored bug. Apple software is written by graphics designers, not programmers..."
- Typical troll, vagaries over specifics. . .
Thomas
Nice article though #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 17:19 GMT
Three cheers for The Reg for an extremely balanced Apple-related article? If only the internet had a few more of those...
Anonymous Coward
Yes, but what about all the other SMS/MMS problems with iPhone #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 19:50 GMT
I have an iPhone 3G, not because it is cool but because things like the mapping and app system are simply brilliantly well-designed and a pleasure to use.
But Apple really needs to sort out the still-poor SMS implementation. Really *basic* features are still not there:
- No forwarding of SMS
- No copy and paste
- No native MMS support at all; one app that has appeared is a kludgy workaround
You would think they've never heard of europe.
Anonymous Coward
Wifi problem too #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 19:50 GMT
Looks like there's a problem with Wifi too, which could be even bigger (mine hasn't been able to see my router for 2 days...):
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8892046#8892046
Will
They took my ringtone away #
Posted Wednesday 28th January 2009 19:50 GMT
There are few pure pleasures in this cruel modern world. So why has iTunes deleted my monkey island theme ringtone? why?
Andreas
@They took my ringtone away #
Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 01:01 GMT
Simple: because **you** chose to support Apple by buying/using products that regulate "your" digital media.
Alex Rose
@various #
Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 01:47 GMT
Seriously people, if you don't like Apples products, that's fine. Don't buy them. I don't own any Apple products because I find that other manufacturers products suit my need better, but I don't waste mine and other people's time moaning about products I don't even use.
You're all just reminding me of the C64/Spectrum/BBC Model B and Amiga/Atari ST arguments of my childhood, either grow up or realise you're no longer children shouting "mine's better" in the fecking playground at school and lambasting people who choose something different to you.
You actually make me ashamed to be human!
Kevin Fairhurst
re: Yes, but what about all the other SMS/MMS problems with iPhone #
Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 10:31 GMT
- No forwarding of SMS
Jailbreak + bitesms
- No copy and paste
Jailbreak + Clippy
- No native MMS support at all; one app that has appeared is a kludgy workaround
Jailbreak + SwirlyMMS (okay it's £6 to buy after 2 week trial but....)
Adam Hart
SMS issue fixed #
Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 10:31 GMT
The SMS problem has been fixed with the latest upgrade so whats all the fuss about?
Mark - who gives a $%£* that you are on Voda, they don't and can't sell iphone....
Anonymous Coward
@ Alex Rose #
Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 11:56 GMT
You missed out Atari 400/800 with C64/Spectrum/BBC Model B
Seriously though, I agree. This rivalry is akin to championing football teams. You don't get these arguments with "My BMW 3 Series is better then your Mercedes C class" - people choose what suits them and live with it.
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