They clearly don't have an objective, logical view of life, and allow important decisions to be based on the teachings of old story books.
I'm not bashing religion, just those who can't seperate it from choices which affect peolpe who don't agree with them.
Anonymous Coward
Once again the church misses a market opportunity #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 11:59 GMT
Where is their iPhone app that gives you timely reminders of the important holy days, like Sunday, Easter, Lent, Seventh Day Ascension, Eighth Day Declination and Christmas? Where's their sandbox virtual cleric game, where you start as a lowly altar-boy, then slowly and ruthlessly work your way up to Pontifex, performing driveby confessionals on Jews, Moslems, Scientologists and Richard Dawkins from the safety of your prayer-powered Popemobile, in between rounds of infallibility and covering up unsavoury doings involving said altar-boys? Or maybe just a Vatican-styled Asus laptop, complete with incense burners and built-in webcam software that continually monitors users for sinful behaviour. then shuts down until they've performed the requisite number of Hail Marys?
All this just off the top of my head, and I don't claim to know anything about the purpose and ultimate fate of our existence...
All this electronic communication stuff is my job so the bishop is basically saying to me, and I suppose to the majority of El Reg's readership, to give up my job. I see an ulterior motive here because if I follow this through then the Pope should give up his job for lent and I'd bet a penny to pound that he'd have a damn better time of it than us.
Sundays are feast days so don't count. Also, patronal festivals are feast days, which is why one suspects the Irish were so keen on St Pat's day being in Lent.
while it does seem quite laughable at first, i agree now (but I wouldn't have a couple of years ago) all this stupid electronic crap IS ruining our lives, and its getting worse by the day, by detracting from the 'real' world, ie, nature, and leading us more and more into digital enslavery by the purely imaginary world we've created,
Actually Lent doesn't include Sundays. That's why it lasts 46 days instead of the 40 days that Jesus spent in the wilderness: the 6 Sundays don't count. So you can text as much as you like on Sundays.
Technically no, it's that old Babylonian tradition that like most other Christian festivals got wrapped up in a bible story and integrated so it was easier to indoctrinate the Anglo-Saxons and others into a new up-and-coming cult about 1800 years ago.
Too many people just never ask the question and just assume that because the sundays in lent are all refered to as the nth sunday of lent and all the teachings are themed around lent, the sundays themselves must also be days of fasting.
Moral of the story: if you are tols that somethng is 40 units in length and you add up the individual units and get 46, ask someone why!
Mine's the one with old church newsletters in the pocket.
Whatever your thoughts on organised religion, you can't knock individual people for trying to improve the world. It's unfortunate that Church leaders who actually try to do something constructive quickly end up being branded 'religious nutters' - attacking the messenger whilst ignoring the message (as a society, we're getting so tied up in our electronic, virtual lives that it's time we stopped - just for a while - and took the time to look around us).
It's not a bad message, might even be a grain of truth in it, and the guy doesn't deserve to be called a lunatic for voicing it.
Imagine if somebody NOT affiliated with the Church had said it - the Queen, for example. Would she be called a nutter as well?
daniel up there said it better than i did, i'm not saying go to church every day, i don't believe in organised religion, but I understand what they are trying to say, and simply saying they're 'religious nutters' so you can ignore what they say, regardless of its validity, is a logical fallacy, I believe, called 'Ad Hominem' it seems most people on here need to start reading about such things and maybe realising just how biased their cognitive functions are, without them even realising, it amazes me how a lot of 'it' people think they know it all about the nature of reality, because they keep a server running or write some apps to earn money, ha!!
Or he could just be sugesting that people could give up somthing which is adversly affecting there lifes. You may as well say the catholic church is trying to kill diabetics because some people give up chocolat for lent.
Did the church ever tell people to quit writing letters to each other? I know speech (as in free) in general has never been particularly popular with them but I thought writing was generally encouraged even when "silent."
'Gv up txt 4 Lent,' urges bishop
Ash
I'm giving up listening to religious leaders. #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 11:59 GMT
They clearly don't have an objective, logical view of life, and allow important decisions to be based on the teachings of old story books.
I'm not bashing religion, just those who can't seperate it from choices which affect peolpe who don't agree with them.
Anonymous Coward
Once again the church misses a market opportunity #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 11:59 GMT
Where is their iPhone app that gives you timely reminders of the important holy days, like Sunday, Easter, Lent, Seventh Day Ascension, Eighth Day Declination and Christmas? Where's their sandbox virtual cleric game, where you start as a lowly altar-boy, then slowly and ruthlessly work your way up to Pontifex, performing driveby confessionals on Jews, Moslems, Scientologists and Richard Dawkins from the safety of your prayer-powered Popemobile, in between rounds of infallibility and covering up unsavoury doings involving said altar-boys? Or maybe just a Vatican-styled Asus laptop, complete with incense burners and built-in webcam software that continually monitors users for sinful behaviour. then shuts down until they've performed the requisite number of Hail Marys?
All this just off the top of my head, and I don't claim to know anything about the purpose and ultimate fate of our existence...
Chris W
Just an excuse for bishops to have sex #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 11:59 GMT
All this electronic communication stuff is my job so the bishop is basically saying to me, and I suppose to the majority of El Reg's readership, to give up my job. I see an ulterior motive here because if I follow this through then the Pope should give up his job for lent and I'd bet a penny to pound that he'd have a damn better time of it than us.
Richard
40 days in Lent #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:01 GMT
Sundays are feast days so don't count. Also, patronal festivals are feast days, which is why one suspects the Irish were so keen on St Pat's day being in Lent.
/pedant
Rob
yeah #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:01 GMT
while it does seem quite laughable at first, i agree now (but I wouldn't have a couple of years ago) all this stupid electronic crap IS ruining our lives, and its getting worse by the day, by detracting from the 'real' world, ie, nature, and leading us more and more into digital enslavery by the purely imaginary world we've created,
bring on the solar EMP!!
Ray
tech evangelist? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:01 GMT
uhm...
Chris
Ridiculous #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:01 GMT
I'll do it if he gives up believing in Sky Beard Man for Lent.
Charlie Barnes
On the take? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:01 GMT
"But the Bish didn’t stop there, because he also suggested that followers avoid videogames, iPhones and social networking sites during the season."
Do we assume from the lack of G1 on that list he's on the take from Google or T-Mobile?
Paris because she's normally too busy to text...
Matthew Wilkes
Lent? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:01 GMT
That's that old christian tradition, isn't it? Surely nobody believes in that old rot anymore.
Anonymous Coward
Nuts #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:05 GMT
Religious nutter
Paul
How about... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:05 GMT
....we use the internet even more during Lent? Just to balance it out :)
Paul Fremantle
Lent #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:17 GMT
Actually Lent doesn't include Sundays. That's why it lasts 46 days instead of the 40 days that Jesus spent in the wilderness: the 6 Sundays don't count. So you can text as much as you like on Sundays.
Of course they never tell you that.
Gerard Krupa
Re: Lent? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:18 GMT
@Matthew Wilkes
Technically no, it's that old Babylonian tradition that like most other Christian festivals got wrapped up in a bible story and integrated so it was easier to indoctrinate the Anglo-Saxons and others into a new up-and-coming cult about 1800 years ago.
Jon H
give up things and do what instead?... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:27 GMT
...go to church perhaps?...
Ha ha ha! Yeah right! Pull the other one. That's less likely to happen than me giving up facebook for a month!!!!
Edward Hull
Can't Feast and Fast at the same time. #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:31 GMT
Sundays are not part of lent.
Too many people just never ask the question and just assume that because the sundays in lent are all refered to as the nth sunday of lent and all the teachings are themed around lent, the sundays themselves must also be days of fasting.
Moral of the story: if you are tols that somethng is 40 units in length and you add up the individual units and get 46, ask someone why!
Mine's the one with old church newsletters in the pocket.
Daniel
He has a point #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:50 GMT
Whatever your thoughts on organised religion, you can't knock individual people for trying to improve the world. It's unfortunate that Church leaders who actually try to do something constructive quickly end up being branded 'religious nutters' - attacking the messenger whilst ignoring the message (as a society, we're getting so tied up in our electronic, virtual lives that it's time we stopped - just for a while - and took the time to look around us).
It's not a bad message, might even be a grain of truth in it, and the guy doesn't deserve to be called a lunatic for voicing it.
Imagine if somebody NOT affiliated with the Church had said it - the Queen, for example. Would she be called a nutter as well?
Wize
If they want all religious people to give up technology... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:51 GMT
...I'm all for it. No more God-bothering TV.
Rob
Ad Hominem #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:13 GMT
daniel up there said it better than i did, i'm not saying go to church every day, i don't believe in organised religion, but I understand what they are trying to say, and simply saying they're 'religious nutters' so you can ignore what they say, regardless of its validity, is a logical fallacy, I believe, called 'Ad Hominem' it seems most people on here need to start reading about such things and maybe realising just how biased their cognitive functions are, without them even realising, it amazes me how a lot of 'it' people think they know it all about the nature of reality, because they keep a server running or write some apps to earn money, ha!!
Anonymous Coward
The Queen #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:13 GMT
You mean the Defender of the Faith, head of the Church of England? OK, not the same Church....
Mark Olleson
Imaginary friends #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:13 GMT
So.... is this a case of giving up virtual worlds for imaginary friends?
Mark Malley
I didn't think of that #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:13 GMT
That's a good idea! I go cross country in the US on a motorcycle every year and it's great to have 2 weeks without electronic communications.
Chris
@ Daniel #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:15 GMT
If the Queen had said it I'd ignore her too.
Paul
@Chris W #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:15 GMT
Or he could just be sugesting that people could give up somthing which is adversly affecting there lifes. You may as well say the catholic church is trying to kill diabetics because some people give up chocolat for lent.
smeddy
I gave up religion for Lent #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:15 GMT
Never looked back
Mike Groombridge
Great Idea #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 14:15 GMT
I would love to do this can preists sign you off work like doctors can
Dear sir
i am signing your systems engineers off for 46 during lent
jesus be with you
regards
(some priest )
sure my boss and the company would love that
Bob Calder
Did the church ever... #
Posted Friday 6th March 2009 11:46 GMT
Did the church ever tell people to quit writing letters to each other? I know speech (as in free) in general has never been particularly popular with them but I thought writing was generally encouraged even when "silent."