I read that as "stimulate all five senses to bring you the sights, smells, tastes, sounds and even feel of ancient Egypt, the Serengeti or Victoria Beckham"
Call my cynical, but I don't particuarly *want* the smells of ancient Egypt (mummified corpses?), the Serengeti (lion crap and half eaten animals?) or Victorian Britain (icky sewer systems, cholera in the streets etc etc)
"A device will be placed in the user’s mouth to stimulate a texture sensation, while "tactile devices" will help generate touch. Sight is - clearly - the easy bit."
yeah right, VR LOOKS so damn real doesnt it? video WILL be the hardest to do in REALTIME to fool us imho. remember cinema sfx (which almost look real now, its hard to see the joins in films like ironman in BR) take months to do...
...that the poor sods wearing these helmets won't notice they're wearing them?
Yeah right... I bet they weigh a ton. Give me a holodeck from Star Trek and I'll be interested.
"He hinted that the technique for smell delivery – developed by Warwick University – will also help to stimulate taste senses, because the two senses are so closely linked."
I wonder if Captain Cyborg had any involvement, I bet he's literally wetting himself in anticipation.
BTW, why hasn't there been any Captain Cyborg coverage lately?
Mine's the one with the Atari Jaguar VR Helmit in the oversized pocket.
Ambitious but every journey begins with a single step... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
Very ambitious claims being made for this project. It will fail. But version 15 or 16 should be pretty good and by the time we get to v 20, we genuinely will not be able to distinguish between real and virtual; not without contextual clues at least...
Why's this version going to fail? Primarily because it's an external device. V 15 (or thereabouts) will be internal. But also if the developers agree with this report that "sight is easy" then they don't yet understand the problem. Why d'you think VR helmets haven't already taken off? Because anyone using them for more than about 20 minutes tends to throw up or get a massive headache. Why? Because sight aint easy at all. The problem is that they insist on presenting prefocussed images to each eye at about 3 inches.
The brains "accommodation" algorithm knows it's focussed on an image 3 inches away, but the data in the image only makes sense to the brain if the objects are several feet away (or more). This produces real cognitive dissonance and the nasty side effects.
Solving that problem aint easy; it requires abandoning prefocussed images and somehow presenting the eye with exactly the same data it would get in real life, forcing the eye to focus naturally instead of too short. There's a fortune waiting for whoever cracks that little conundrum...
There's enough space on the front of the helmet for someone to walk (no need to sneak, if the user's hearing is pre-occupied) and spray something rude on the outside.
It could also be a training aid to teach geeks to wipe their mirror as they squeeze their zits.
YUS!!! I've been telling all my gaming friends for the last few years that it's about damn time they revisited VR. The technology wasn't up to standard back in the early 90s though and eventually everyone just forgot about it. Things have moved on since then though! It's damn nice that they've finally decided to have another crack at it.
Liam Johnson
Just me? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:17 GMT
I read that as "stimulate all five senses to bring you the sights, smells, tastes, sounds and even feel of ancient Egypt, the Serengeti or Victoria Beckham"
Tom
Will it come bundled with... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 12:17 GMT
Pull my finger?
Lionel Baden
dont want to be a pessemist but... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
The final headset will be light and comfortable,
im going to wait and see first
lIsRT
If this works well... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
...expect the porn industry to adopt it at maximum possible speed.
Once it's a consumer product, imagine the fun of linking somebody (who is suitably equipped) to a 2 girls 1 cup style file *with authentic smells*.
Richard
Not for the games industry #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
I've spent far to much time creeping around sewers to want one of these for gaming.
Obviously it'll be a good few years before that is even considered anyway.
Ginger
Now with full on Pornovision #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
5 minutes after first alpha product is released
Ash
Victoria Beckham #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
That one's easy; Take an old gym sock and place it over your face while you fondle a couple of cocktail sticks.
Anonymous Coward
Smells #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
Call my cynical, but I don't particuarly *want* the smells of ancient Egypt (mummified corpses?), the Serengeti (lion crap and half eaten animals?) or Victorian Britain (icky sewer systems, cholera in the streets etc etc)
Also, they need to make it smaller...
Liam
wtf? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
"A device will be placed in the user’s mouth to stimulate a texture sensation, while "tactile devices" will help generate touch. Sight is - clearly - the easy bit."
yeah right, VR LOOKS so damn real doesnt it? video WILL be the hardest to do in REALTIME to fool us imho. remember cinema sfx (which almost look real now, its hard to see the joins in films like ironman in BR) take months to do...
Anonymous Coward
Right whatever #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
I still don't have one that will do just sight so I won't hold my breathe m'kay.
Anonymous Coward
Well that's #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
going to cost the same as my house. Probably more.
On the other (rapidly moving) hand, think of the possibilities for porn with touch, taste and smell built in!
I wonder if it'll be useable with games? Or if some games will be designed / updated to work with it?
Tim
@ Liam #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
And you know which one of those 3 will be the most lucrative app for this technology.
Wonder how long it is before the first case of someone's wife etc catching them wearing just one of these.
Tim#3
Chris
I'm surprised #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
Two comments and no-one's calling this out as vapourware?
Rob Beard
Are they trying to say... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
...that the poor sods wearing these helmets won't notice they're wearing them?
Yeah right... I bet they weigh a ton. Give me a holodeck from Star Trek and I'll be interested.
"He hinted that the technique for smell delivery – developed by Warwick University – will also help to stimulate taste senses, because the two senses are so closely linked."
I wonder if Captain Cyborg had any involvement, I bet he's literally wetting himself in anticipation.
BTW, why hasn't there been any Captain Cyborg coverage lately?
Mine's the one with the Atari Jaguar VR Helmit in the oversized pocket.
Rob
Code Monkey
@Liam Johnson #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:07 GMT
For the feel of Victoria Beckham you could try grabbing a bundle of sticks
Sam
BTL #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
One step closer to "Better Than Life" (TM)
Richard Rae
@ Liam #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
What you like the taste of skeletons?
michael
how long before #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
they come out with a crotch atachment for it?
Psmiffy
Its the 3 B's again #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
"universities of Bangor, Bradford and Brighton" ...
or as I like to say
Bullshit baffles brains.
Just remind me never to visit 18th century london during the time of the plague, might not quite like the smells and tastes of that
Anonymous Coward
Groinal attachment? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
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Anonymous Coward
wtf? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
does it come with the baggies you find in an airplane. I think the smell of a medieval london will make me puke.
Luis Ogando
Pron! #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
Can't wait to view.. er.. 'adult interest' content with one of these!! PHWOOAAR!!!
Anonymous Coward
Hmmmmm #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
The porn industry could be reborn with this.
Not too sure about the thing in your mouth, might be OK for a woman?
Frank
And the main application will be? #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
"A device will be placed in the user’s mouth to stimulate a texture sensation, while "tactile devices" will help generate touch."
Is this being bankrolled by the pron industry? What about the other body part attachments?
(Am I the only one here with such a dirty mind?)
Anonymous Coward
I wonder... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
...which prawn company will, as we read this, be heavily investigating "crotch attachments"?
Paris for... well, obvious reasons!!
g e
All they need is a recorder #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
Then they can play back people's experiences a la Brainstorm movie
Pinwizard
right #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
But what happened to all the VR headsets people like Escomm were selling in the early nineties?
Ok, so they needed headphones and didn't smell but I still want one or three.
Anonymous Coward
you just KNOW... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
...that some Übergeek will have a pr0n mod for this before it even hits store shelves.
In which case, count me in!
("GO" because PH is a nasty skank I wouldn't touch with someone ELSE's ten foot pole.)
Harry Stottle
Ambitious but every journey begins with a single step... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
Very ambitious claims being made for this project. It will fail. But version 15 or 16 should be pretty good and by the time we get to v 20, we genuinely will not be able to distinguish between real and virtual; not without contextual clues at least...
Why's this version going to fail? Primarily because it's an external device. V 15 (or thereabouts) will be internal. But also if the developers agree with this report that "sight is easy" then they don't yet understand the problem. Why d'you think VR helmets haven't already taken off? Because anyone using them for more than about 20 minutes tends to throw up or get a massive headache. Why? Because sight aint easy at all. The problem is that they insist on presenting prefocussed images to each eye at about 3 inches.
The brains "accommodation" algorithm knows it's focussed on an image 3 inches away, but the data in the image only makes sense to the brain if the objects are several feet away (or more). This produces real cognitive dissonance and the nasty side effects.
Solving that problem aint easy; it requires abandoning prefocussed images and somehow presenting the eye with exactly the same data it would get in real life, forcing the eye to focus naturally instead of too short. There's a fortune waiting for whoever cracks that little conundrum...
Stevie
Bah #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
Now we see that Sauron was simply a misunderstood beta tester for this daft device.
Mike
wake me up #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:09 GMT
when they get some kit for the "lower brain" also.
Alex King
All we need now is... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:12 GMT
...the matching recording device - then we could have Strange Days coming true. Hurrah!
David Wiernicki
Oh, whooo, boy... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 18:12 GMT
...the smells of Victorian Britain. Hold me back.
Anonymous Coward
Or.... #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 22:26 GMT
Geeks could learn to wash, get some style and pony up for drinks and dinner.
And the girls might throw away their proven VR toys.......
Anonymous Coward
Ha-ha-ha #
Posted Thursday 5th March 2009 22:31 GMT
There's enough space on the front of the helmet for someone to walk (no need to sneak, if the user's hearing is pre-occupied) and spray something rude on the outside.
It could also be a training aid to teach geeks to wipe their mirror as they squeeze their zits.
mark
Lawnmower man! #
Posted Sunday 8th March 2009 09:44 GMT
YUS!!! I've been telling all my gaming friends for the last few years that it's about damn time they revisited VR. The technology wasn't up to standard back in the early 90s though and eventually everyone just forgot about it. Things have moved on since then though! It's damn nice that they've finally decided to have another crack at it.
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