wacky jacqui influences BBC criminalisation progrom #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 12:08 GMT
Heh, have the BBC been taking lessons from the Home Office?
If the statement about watching TV on the phone is policed anything like the TV licence, then possession of a smart phone is as good as signing yourself up as a criminal!
Roll out free live internet telly, then state to the government that people without licenses are 'stealing' tv. Bish hash bosh, a flat rate internet tax 'in case' you decide to watch tv.
You guys do know the BBC is only doing this because their pushing for an Internet Licence to replace the TV one?. I myself haven't paid them in 19yrs and never will because I hate everything the left wingers mouth piece does.
Well I just tried it with my G1 and got a lovely 'Your phone is not supported page'. Maybe they mean it'll work after the next update which is possibly bringing us Flash?
"If the statement about watching TV on the phone is policed anything like the TV licence, then possession of a smart phone is as good as signing yourself up as a criminal!"
Unless, of course, you just buy a sodding TV licence and worry about the more important things in your life.
Since when did (or should) the connection methodology or the platform used matter? Why suddenly is it important to stream TV to wirelessly connected smartphones but still not a good idea to stream to wired PCs?
Let's see if we can't come up with a slashdot car analogy... Isn't this like selling petrol which will only power blue cars?
Oh, and when will iplayer-dl have a version to handle the live stream?
Considering we are only allowed to view over wifi at present, why the terrible low resolution? All the phones they currently support have at least 320 x 240 displays.
I've been able to watch live TV via the mobile BBC website for months on my X1. And to Andrew, you can watch live TV on your wired PC http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/
...they've put a very desireable service online, and then you're breaking the law if you use it (assuming you don't have a TV licence). Isn't that "Entrapment"?
Haven't managed to get further than the "only works on Wifi" thing 'cos I'm running over 3G at the moment, shame it doesn't support 3G but I guess the beeb doesn't want to ruffle the phone companies' feathers just yet.
I assume it will support Windows Mobile? Sorry, I meant "Windows Phone".
Once again like the iPlayer this doesn't work on the Nokia N82 or the N95 it seems. 2 devices that are more than capable of running live TV. I'm gonna take a wild guess that this crap works on the N96, a device which is less powerful than the N82. So it seems the BBC have teamed up with Nokia to make it work on only the newest devices. So much for unbiased.
I get all the way to choosing a channel (on an N95 8GB) but then get "Programmes cannot be watched outside the UK". Well, OK, I *am* outside the UK, but... Must get that proxy working
where the author got the info that it will work with Android? AFAIK the G1 does not even support flash, never mind a browser which has streaming video support. Is there to be an Android App perhaps?
Only two live programmes available, but they were in-synch and certainly watchable over my home network. Quite straightforward to use, too. The programmes loaded in Real Player.
Works fine, small(ish) picture but for the news catch up would be fine. None of the radio links work as they are all 404s and no Radio 5 Live :( Which makes it crap to me.
When you get the warning about WiFi only, you just hit "continue" and it takes you through.
And to those complaining about support on earlier N-series devices; it's the same problem they have with iPlayer. You have to admit the access point handling on FP1 devices is crap, and how long do you think it would be before assorted numpties who don't realise the RealPlayer setting is different from the global setting ring the Daily Mail because they've run up a £3000 data bill? Although I'm an N95 owner myself, I do rather sympathise with the BBC on that one. Thankfully, the access point handling on FP2 and S60 5th edition is much better, but you've then got the DRM stuff to consider.
To launch a service and not even post a list of compatable hardware/system requirements is an out and out fail - even more so when you're talking about a beta service that won't have blanket compatibility.
With the trend being toward larger and larger screen size at higher and higher resolution, why anyone would want to forgo such a thing and watch TV on a teeny tiny phone screen is beyond me. What's that you say? "Watch while away from home"? That's what DVRs and Slingbox are for, you twit.
Until they can wirelessly transmit images directly to my optic nerve, I'll pass, thank you.
BBC goes live... over Wi-Fi
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Charles Tsang
wacky jacqui influences BBC criminalisation progrom #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 12:08 GMT
Heh, have the BBC been taking lessons from the Home Office?
If the statement about watching TV on the phone is policed anything like the TV licence, then possession of a smart phone is as good as signing yourself up as a criminal!
V
But... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 12:59 GMT
Says my Nokia N95 is not a supporter device.
Jess
Criminal offense #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 12:59 GMT
then they should require you to enter your license number (and a password) to watch it.
Peter Sommer
Not working on Nokia E71! #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 12:59 GMT
Not working on Nokia E71!
M
Cue BBC Hand-wringing #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 12:59 GMT
Roll out free live internet telly, then state to the government that people without licenses are 'stealing' tv. Bish hash bosh, a flat rate internet tax 'in case' you decide to watch tv.
Ian Willcock
It's not just iPhones! #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
It doesn't work on my N95 8GB either... although I can listen the the radio 4 live feed directly from Real Player!
Paris - because it seemed like a nice idea!
Defiant
Scrap The BBC TAX! #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
You guys do know the BBC is only doing this because their pushing for an Internet Licence to replace the TV one?. I myself haven't paid them in 19yrs and never will because I hate everything the left wingers mouth piece does.
http://tvlicenceresistance.info/petition/
Simon Proctor
G1 #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
Well I just tried it with my G1 and got a lovely 'Your phone is not supported page'. Maybe they mean it'll work after the next update which is possibly bringing us Flash?
Or maybe not.
Jon Brunson
Doesn't work #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
On my G1:
"Your device appears to be unable to support this service."
Shame really, it'd be nice if I could watch a bit of TV during my lunch break
It wasnt me
@Charles Tsang #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
"If the statement about watching TV on the phone is policed anything like the TV licence, then possession of a smart phone is as good as signing yourself up as a criminal!"
Unless, of course, you just buy a sodding TV licence and worry about the more important things in your life.
Bring on the 800 comments from the BBCtards.
Anonymous Coward
TV driving licence #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
Tell me when it works then, to cancel my TV driving licence
Tony
BBC goes live... over Wi-Fi #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
Does not work on my N95 - reports "Your device appears to be unable to support this service"
Neil Hoskins
Nokia #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
<picks self off floor because the Reg have covered a smartphone story that's not about the iPhone>
Currently only 5800 and N96 AFAIK, presumably because of DRM issues. My N95-1 just shows "unsupported".
Anonymous Coward
failed... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
Just tried it on my iPhone over home wireless network and according to the beeb I'm not on a wireless network so they ain't playing. Just me?
Andrew
Wifi/smartphone only? #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
Since when did (or should) the connection methodology or the platform used matter? Why suddenly is it important to stream TV to wirelessly connected smartphones but still not a good idea to stream to wired PCs?
Let's see if we can't come up with a slashdot car analogy... Isn't this like selling petrol which will only power blue cars?
Oh, and when will iplayer-dl have a version to handle the live stream?
hugh
Not working on Android #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:13 GMT
"Your device appears to be unable to support this service"
Anonymous Coward
poor quality #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:53 GMT
Considering we are only allowed to view over wifi at present, why the terrible low resolution? All the phones they currently support have at least 320 x 240 displays.
Mark Marsh
Not working on N79 #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:53 GMT
Has anyone got it to work?
Ryan Cullen
way old news #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:53 GMT
I've been able to watch live TV via the mobile BBC website for months on my X1. And to Andrew, you can watch live TV on your wired PC http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/
darkmooink
omnia #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:53 GMT
works fine on the omnia, now all i need is a headphone cable that also allows me to charge it
Anonymous Coward
Doesn't work in Scotland #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
My Nokia via wi-fi over BT Broadband says... "Sorry. Programmes cannot be watched outside the UK. I didn't know Scotland had declared UDI
Matt Ryan
HTC S620 #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
Not supported.
Jim Coleman
So... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
...they've put a very desireable service online, and then you're breaking the law if you use it (assuming you don't have a TV licence). Isn't that "Entrapment"?
Haven't managed to get further than the "only works on Wifi" thing 'cos I'm running over 3G at the moment, shame it doesn't support 3G but I guess the beeb doesn't want to ruffle the phone companies' feathers just yet.
I assume it will support Windows Mobile? Sorry, I meant "Windows Phone".
Aaron Singh
Rant Alert! #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
Once again like the iPlayer this doesn't work on the Nokia N82 or the N95 it seems. 2 devices that are more than capable of running live TV. I'm gonna take a wild guess that this crap works on the N96, a device which is less powerful than the N82. So it seems the BBC have teamed up with Nokia to make it work on only the newest devices. So much for unbiased.
Rant Over..
Vortigern
Not on N85 #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
Says unsupported on N85 too.... why couldn't they just put it in the iplayer application, surely that can't be hard!
Doesn't seem to be somewhere I can enter my TV licence number with pride either to prove I'm not some sort of scrounger or foreigner.
Steve
Almost... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
I get all the way to choosing a channel (on an N95 8GB) but then get "Programmes cannot be watched outside the UK". Well, OK, I *am* outside the UK, but... Must get that proxy working
Anonymous Coward
I would like to know #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
where the author got the info that it will work with Android? AFAIK the G1 does not even support flash, never mind a browser which has streaming video support. Is there to be an Android App perhaps?
Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse
So, another... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
Platform I won't watch TV on.
Do people seriously have nothing better to do.
Anonymous Coward
BlackBerry Bold #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
Goes into media player, seems to suck down data then does nothing.
Tim
Not working on Android ++ #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
"Your device appears to be unable to support this service"
Anonymous Coward
Has anyone got this going? #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 13:58 GMT
I get the not suppreed message on my Iphone. I may crank up my old FSC PDA on WLAN. I bet it only works on WinMo handsets.
Anonymous Coward
in fact failed completely... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 14:01 GMT
Just tried it on my laptop as well and seemingly its not on a wireless network either which is clever since I'm typing this on it.
Steven Lawson
It works fine on my Nokia N96 #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 14:05 GMT
Only two live programmes available, but they were in-synch and certainly watchable over my home network. Quite straightforward to use, too. The programmes loaded in Real Player.
F Cage
When is WiFi not WiFI? #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 14:25 GMT
Also getting the false error stating that I am not on WiFi when I clearly am.
Mike P
Blimey it works! #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 14:25 GMT
Works on a HTC Touch!
Steve Walker
Working on a LG Renoir (910?) #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:33 GMT
Works fine, small(ish) picture but for the news catch up would be fine. None of the radio links work as they are all 404s and no Radio 5 Live :( Which makes it crap to me.
Anonymous Coward
Fought the war for you lot.... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:50 GMT
Grumble, grumble, license, grumble, moan, license, grumble, WHY, WHY!!!, grumble, license, grumble....
Marco Alfarrobinha
On my N96... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:50 GMT
... it has been working for over two months now. Old news then.
Next.
Neil Hoskins
@various: It's not an error it's a feature. #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:50 GMT
When you get the warning about WiFi only, you just hit "continue" and it takes you through.
And to those complaining about support on earlier N-series devices; it's the same problem they have with iPlayer. You have to admit the access point handling on FP1 devices is crap, and how long do you think it would be before assorted numpties who don't realise the RealPlayer setting is different from the global setting ring the Daily Mail because they've run up a £3000 data bill? Although I'm an N95 owner myself, I do rather sympathise with the BBC on that one. Thankfully, the access point handling on FP2 and S60 5th edition is much better, but you've then got the DRM stuff to consider.
Tony Hoyle
Not wifi? #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:50 GMT
I'm sure my Wifi is Wifi.. unless it's some kind of transmission method previously undocumented.
Nope, definately says Wifi on the router...
Anonymous Coward
On wired PC's... #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:50 GMT
To Andrew.... I use this service on my wired PC, can't fault it at all!!
http://www.tvcatchup.com/
Emo
TV License #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:50 GMT
I thought portable battery powered TV's were exempt?
Corin
Blackberry Bold #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:50 GMT
Works fine using the Blackberry Bold 9000. I'm connected to O2 LLU Broadband (4mbit sync speed) via wi-fi, and it's streaming nicely.
Peter Griffith
Wryel #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 15:57 GMT
Touch HD says no.
/\/\j17
Fail #
Posted Tuesday 7th April 2009 00:25 GMT
To launch a service and not even post a list of compatable hardware/system requirements is an out and out fail - even more so when you're talking about a beta service that won't have blanket compatibility.
Nokia E90 says no.
Chris
Why? #
Posted Tuesday 7th April 2009 00:25 GMT
With the trend being toward larger and larger screen size at higher and higher resolution, why anyone would want to forgo such a thing and watch TV on a teeny tiny phone screen is beyond me. What's that you say? "Watch while away from home"? That's what DVRs and Slingbox are for, you twit.
Until they can wirelessly transmit images directly to my optic nerve, I'll pass, thank you.
Chris - LG
iPlayer #
Posted Tuesday 7th April 2009 00:25 GMT
This licence issue - Does it apply to the iplayer and your laptop as well? I haven't seen to much on the subject
Paul Boocock
Bold #
Posted Tuesday 7th April 2009 00:25 GMT
Can confirm it works on the Blackberry Bold. Not too shabby either.
Anonymous Coward
Maybe it's just me? #
Posted Tuesday 7th April 2009 00:25 GMT
But anything Real Player (on PC) related I'd much prefer to bodyswerve.
Anonymous Coward
Doesn't work on N810 either #
Posted Tuesday 7th April 2009 00:25 GMT
Also says unsupported device
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