... once someone breaks the mould (and/or contract with Microsoft) and produces something radical, rather than conform to the utter blandness now characterising available products. As it is potential customers wonder why they should bother, whilst daydreaming of something better. Unfortunately for the Atom, any mould-breaking is looking likely to involve non Intel chippery, so the prospects in that particular regard remain somewhat bleak, for better or for worse.
We've had the first round of netbooks and there are a lot of announcements already for what's coming next including Ion. With this much buzz around the next generation of netbooks being better it is understandable that buyers will pause and see what comes out.
Couple this with the current economy and the potential for 'bargain' pricing to attract sales.
...which means higher prices and, unsurprisingly, lower sales. Trying to find a brand new netbook for significantly under 200 pounds is getting quite difficult, now that 7" netbooks are dead, 8.9" netbooks are being phased out and 10"/12" netbooks seem to be de rigeur at the moment. Never mind the "Microsoft tax" too, now that most netbooks ship with Windows as well.
Got to say that the company going the "wrong way" with this is definitely the netbook trailblazer Asus - they've basically upped the spec so much now, that even a sub-300 quid EEE netbook model is hard to find in their range now!
WTF do they expect? every netbook is exactly the same spec, virtually no variety. I'll only buy a netbook once they're kitted with Dual Cores and 720p screens.
You mean a proper laptop? Of course, with that kit you’ll have both cack battery and higher prices. I agree that they are all the same these days, and have grown to be too big, but with a rubbish resolution. My 5 year old Vaio has a 10 inch screen at 1280x800 and of a high enough quality that I can not only use it productively but also not get eyestrain. Of course, it did cost about six times the original Eee, or three times the newer Eee’s!!
Interestingly, if you have a look at what they are releasing in the Far East, you can see all sorts of machines not sporting Atoms, with stuff like detachable screens, and of the sub-10 inch size. Of course, it is doubtful any of these will see the light of day over here…
It seems to me that there are two main reasons for a slowdown in netbook sales:
First and simplest is that the market for netbooks has been largely satisfied by the existing range, a known fact in my case. I'm really happy with my Aspire One and feel no need to immediately extend the family.
Secondly, I think the manufacturers have lost the plot. All the netbook buzz was generated by the advent of the small cheap computer (SCC). The term 'netbook' has arrived to conveniently hide the trend to getting larger and more expensive. I fail to see the point of most of the recent entrants on the netbook scene, might as well bung in a few more quid and have the convenience of a built-in optical drive.
You can't conclude an overall decline in netbook activity by a decline in the sale of Atom processors. All you can conclude is a decline in activity for Atom-based netbooks.
With ARM_based netbooks coming soon, we may well see an increase in total netbook sales while Atom-based netbook sales drop.
Join the queue at LHR T1 and watch the laptops being disgorged into the scanner. Last year, Dell, Dell, Dell, Vaio, Mac... This year, Asus, Samsung, you know the rest.
You can tell who's downsized, they walk taller. And they smile more; they run XP.
Yes, the portable computer formerly known as Netbook is here to stay.
This market was bound to level off eventually. No market grows infinitely large. That being said, there are some artificial factors at work here. The most significant one is the restrictions Microsoft places on netbook makers in order for them to qualify for cheaper XP licenses. Virtually all currently-shipping netbooks sport specifications that are at the Microsoft-defined limits and not beyond (though a few are below).
If last year's netbook didn't meet your needs in terms of performance, this year's won't, either. They're pretty much the same in terms of CPU, RAM, disk space, and graphics chipset. And if you bought one last year, the only difference this time is the color of the case or the form factor (generally speaking). There's no incentive to buy a new netbook if you already own one because it's not much of an "upgrade".
Netbooks are virtually as good as they're going to get until Microsoft ships Windows 7 (or Apple ships a netbook to compete, or netbook makers return to Linux - which I'd like to see but don't expect). Once that happens, they can look at dual-core CPUs, more RAM, larger storage, etc. Until then, netbooks are at their specification limits and we can't expect anything really "better". Hopefully pricing will stay roughly the same and specifications go up, otherwise (as has been noted here) the netbook will lose in favor of low-end notebooks with better specs.
Combine a leveling off of specifications, an increase in price range (as noted by others here), and a slow economy... a leveling off of netbook sales is practically guaranteed... Even a decline in sales would make sense. Once the "XP Limits" are removed, I think we'll see some very interesting stuff in the netbook space. In the meantime, expect a lot more of the same old thing... and a decline in overall interest.
Sales were high when NBs were cheap and cheerful. Unfortunately, MS (once again) had missed the boat and had to belatedly dust off XP in order to regain their stranglehold on PC sales.
The problem was that NB's were not up to running XP, so spec's had to be raised and prices raised accordingly.
Now, NBs are neither cheap nor cheerful, we are in the middle of a gigantic global recession and it is "news" that Netbooks are no longer selling in huge numbers.
Go figure.
P.S. Where o where is the Evil Ballmer icon? BillG left the building AGES ago
Anonymous Coward
Ion #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 11:15 GMT
It's because I'm saving my money for an Ion based netbook...
James Pickett
"Sales plunge" #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 11:15 GMT
Global recession causes fall in sales? Slow news day, is it...?
David Gosnell
Demand will rise again ... #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 12:02 GMT
... once someone breaks the mould (and/or contract with Microsoft) and produces something radical, rather than conform to the utter blandness now characterising available products. As it is potential customers wonder why they should bother, whilst daydreaming of something better. Unfortunately for the Atom, any mould-breaking is looking likely to involve non Intel chippery, so the prospects in that particular regard remain somewhat bleak, for better or for worse.
Albert
Waiting for next revision #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 12:02 GMT
We've had the first round of netbooks and there are a lot of announcements already for what's coming next including Ion. With this much buzz around the next generation of netbooks being better it is understandable that buyers will pause and see what comes out.
Couple this with the current economy and the potential for 'bargain' pricing to attract sales.
Richard Lloyd
Netbooks have gone higher spec... #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 12:02 GMT
...which means higher prices and, unsurprisingly, lower sales. Trying to find a brand new netbook for significantly under 200 pounds is getting quite difficult, now that 7" netbooks are dead, 8.9" netbooks are being phased out and 10"/12" netbooks seem to be de rigeur at the moment. Never mind the "Microsoft tax" too, now that most netbooks ship with Windows as well.
Got to say that the company going the "wrong way" with this is definitely the netbook trailblazer Asus - they've basically upped the spec so much now, that even a sub-300 quid EEE netbook model is hard to find in their range now!
Anonymous Coward
Cause they all suck? #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 12:02 GMT
WTF do they expect? every netbook is exactly the same spec, virtually no variety. I'll only buy a netbook once they're kitted with Dual Cores and 720p screens.
Big Bear
RE: Cause they all suck? #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 13:58 GMT
You mean a proper laptop? Of course, with that kit you’ll have both cack battery and higher prices. I agree that they are all the same these days, and have grown to be too big, but with a rubbish resolution. My 5 year old Vaio has a 10 inch screen at 1280x800 and of a high enough quality that I can not only use it productively but also not get eyestrain. Of course, it did cost about six times the original Eee, or three times the newer Eee’s!!
Interestingly, if you have a look at what they are releasing in the Far East, you can see all sorts of machines not sporting Atoms, with stuff like detachable screens, and of the sub-10 inch size. Of course, it is doubtful any of these will see the light of day over here…
Anonymous Coward
2 main reasons #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 13:58 GMT
It seems to me that there are two main reasons for a slowdown in netbook sales:
First and simplest is that the market for netbooks has been largely satisfied by the existing range, a known fact in my case. I'm really happy with my Aspire One and feel no need to immediately extend the family.
Secondly, I think the manufacturers have lost the plot. All the netbook buzz was generated by the advent of the small cheap computer (SCC). The term 'netbook' has arrived to conveniently hide the trend to getting larger and more expensive. I fail to see the point of most of the recent entrants on the netbook scene, might as well bung in a few more quid and have the convenience of a built-in optical drive.
Torben Mogensen
Netbook != Atom #
Posted Tuesday 12th May 2009 13:58 GMT
You can't conclude an overall decline in netbook activity by a decline in the sale of Atom processors. All you can conclude is a decline in activity for Atom-based netbooks.
With ARM_based netbooks coming soon, we may well see an increase in total netbook sales while Atom-based netbook sales drop.
David Love
Fad? Don't think so... #
Posted Wednesday 13th May 2009 09:32 GMT
Join the queue at LHR T1 and watch the laptops being disgorged into the scanner. Last year, Dell, Dell, Dell, Vaio, Mac... This year, Asus, Samsung, you know the rest.
You can tell who's downsized, they walk taller. And they smile more; they run XP.
Yes, the portable computer formerly known as Netbook is here to stay.
james burns
chip sales #
Posted Tuesday 19th May 2009 14:49 GMT
Due to this prices of PC will go up or down
Michael Salsbury
Things were bound to level off... #
Posted Thursday 21st May 2009 22:26 GMT
This market was bound to level off eventually. No market grows infinitely large. That being said, there are some artificial factors at work here. The most significant one is the restrictions Microsoft places on netbook makers in order for them to qualify for cheaper XP licenses. Virtually all currently-shipping netbooks sport specifications that are at the Microsoft-defined limits and not beyond (though a few are below).
If last year's netbook didn't meet your needs in terms of performance, this year's won't, either. They're pretty much the same in terms of CPU, RAM, disk space, and graphics chipset. And if you bought one last year, the only difference this time is the color of the case or the form factor (generally speaking). There's no incentive to buy a new netbook if you already own one because it's not much of an "upgrade".
Netbooks are virtually as good as they're going to get until Microsoft ships Windows 7 (or Apple ships a netbook to compete, or netbook makers return to Linux - which I'd like to see but don't expect). Once that happens, they can look at dual-core CPUs, more RAM, larger storage, etc. Until then, netbooks are at their specification limits and we can't expect anything really "better". Hopefully pricing will stay roughly the same and specifications go up, otherwise (as has been noted here) the netbook will lose in favor of low-end notebooks with better specs.
Combine a leveling off of specifications, an increase in price range (as noted by others here), and a slow economy... a leveling off of netbook sales is practically guaranteed... Even a decline in sales would make sense. Once the "XP Limits" are removed, I think we'll see some very interesting stuff in the netbook space. In the meantime, expect a lot more of the same old thing... and a decline in overall interest.
Goat Jam
Microsoft has killed the netbook market #
Posted Friday 22nd May 2009 09:24 GMT
Sales were high when NBs were cheap and cheerful. Unfortunately, MS (once again) had missed the boat and had to belatedly dust off XP in order to regain their stranglehold on PC sales.
The problem was that NB's were not up to running XP, so spec's had to be raised and prices raised accordingly.
Now, NBs are neither cheap nor cheerful, we are in the middle of a gigantic global recession and it is "news" that Netbooks are no longer selling in huge numbers.
Go figure.
P.S. Where o where is the Evil Ballmer icon? BillG left the building AGES ago
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