Which exchange rate are we using here? It's been almost a year since the pound traded at those levels. Current UKP/USD rates are between £1 = $1.6 to 1.65, so the $200 comes out as roughly £120 to £125.
I dream of the pound being worth two dollars and change again, but even more of the pound buying one and a half euros. Holidays and visits to the Eurozone are frankly scary at the moment.
P.S. You owe me a new keyboard, and that's a proper UK keyboard with £, $ and € signs...
Not sure what planet the author is living on. $200 are not £100, we have already established that. And Atom-based netbooks do not cost £300-£400. A quick look at the current offers from the mainstream suppliers reveals Atom Netbooks are priced between £200-£300 and down to sub £200 if Linux based.
Linux development must be supported on ARM netbooks #
Posted Wednesday 9th September 2009 19:46 GMT
The ARM processor is a low power high performance processor well suited for netbooks.
Unfortunately the ARM processor is not often used in netbooks. This means that to use Linux software on an ARM based netbook a "C" compiler and other utilities such as "perl" and "bash" must be supplied to compile its source code for the ARM processor. Linux software is described as being "Open source" software. Linux software is not always available in compiled form for none Intel processors and so such systems are useless without compilers.
What I would like to know is whether these netbooks will be supplied with a basic "C" development system? A basic set of development utilities is very small and so could be easily provided in the FLASH memory supplied with these systems. Alternatively a "C" compiler could be provided on CD for these systems so long as they support an external CD drive?
I am sure that someone will say "Ah but all people want to do with these systems is to surf the web and edit a memo". My answer to them is that you can do this using a mobile phone. A real Linux system must have the ability to run thousands of different programs.
Clearly you don't use linux or know anything about the breadth of its architecture support. The GNU C compiler collection is fully supported on ARM cpus and Ubuntu have already released a complete version of their distro for ARM, many major distributions support ARM and Adobe have been working closely with ARM to ensure flash works fluidly on ARM systems for a good while now.
I am perfectly aware that you can do ARM Linux cross development on a desk top PC.
However, if I was to buy a Linux netbook I would want to be able to development work such as running perl scripts on my netbook.
My point is that a Linux netbook is of little more use than a mobile phone if it can not be used for simple development. Given that mobile companies will give you a PDA mobile phone free as part of a mobile phone contract then it really is more sensible to buy a PDA mobile phone than a Linux netbook.
I am sick and tired of bloatware. If I have a PC in my pocket that is as powerful as a desktop PC from 10 years ago then I want to be able to do development on my netbook.
I wonder if these limitations apply also to XP netbooks. Are they similarily crippled so that you can not develop simple Visual Basic using an XP netbook?
I'm currently using an Acer Aspire One for web development, I run a local instance of apache and use perl/CGI and mysql to run the backend. Obviously I'm running linux on this machine because it's a)better than windows and b)not crippled. The ARM based netbooks should have similar hardware capabilities.
On a slightly off-topic note Visual Basic is shit. It's an awful abomination of a language.
Foxconn working on 'sub-£100' ARM-based Linux netbooks
Uncle Slacky
$200 <> £97 #
Posted Tuesday 8th September 2009 11:48 GMT
$200 is closer to £120 at today's exchange rate...
JasonH
Exchange rate #
Posted Tuesday 8th September 2009 11:48 GMT
*splutter* *cough, cough*
Which exchange rate are we using here? It's been almost a year since the pound traded at those levels. Current UKP/USD rates are between £1 = $1.6 to 1.65, so the $200 comes out as roughly £120 to £125.
I dream of the pound being worth two dollars and change again, but even more of the pound buying one and a half euros. Holidays and visits to the Eurozone are frankly scary at the moment.
P.S. You owe me a new keyboard, and that's a proper UK keyboard with £, $ and € signs...
DemonIT
$200 USD is not sub £100! #
Posted Tuesday 8th September 2009 12:22 GMT
Try £120 +
Anonymous Coward
Import duties ? #
Posted Tuesday 8th September 2009 13:41 GMT
I can understand VAT, but what import duties are levied - does anyone know ?
Ryan 7
Damnit! #
Posted Tuesday 8th September 2009 13:41 GMT
You just made me check the exchange rate!
Also @Uncle Slacky:
All the cool kids use !=
;¬)
Havin_it
Don't be silly... #
Posted Tuesday 8th September 2009 19:18 GMT
As any fule kno, the US > UK exchange rate for consumer electronics is
$200 = £200
Big Bear
@Havin_it #
Posted Wednesday 9th September 2009 07:48 GMT
Isn't that a fruit based exchange rate?
Martin Nicholls
Duty #
Posted Wednesday 9th September 2009 07:48 GMT
"but what import duties are levied - does anyone know"
None on laptops afaik - though PDAs are 3.something%, maybe they'll be bitchy and go somewhere down the middle for netbooks :)
Paris doesn't do tax.
Reinhard Schu
Atom based netbooks £300-£400? #
Posted Wednesday 9th September 2009 11:05 GMT
Not sure what planet the author is living on. $200 are not £100, we have already established that. And Atom-based netbooks do not cost £300-£400. A quick look at the current offers from the mainstream suppliers reveals Atom Netbooks are priced between £200-£300 and down to sub £200 if Linux based.
PaulM 1
Linux development must be supported on ARM netbooks #
Posted Wednesday 9th September 2009 19:46 GMT
The ARM processor is a low power high performance processor well suited for netbooks.
Unfortunately the ARM processor is not often used in netbooks. This means that to use Linux software on an ARM based netbook a "C" compiler and other utilities such as "perl" and "bash" must be supplied to compile its source code for the ARM processor. Linux software is described as being "Open source" software. Linux software is not always available in compiled form for none Intel processors and so such systems are useless without compilers.
What I would like to know is whether these netbooks will be supplied with a basic "C" development system? A basic set of development utilities is very small and so could be easily provided in the FLASH memory supplied with these systems. Alternatively a "C" compiler could be provided on CD for these systems so long as they support an external CD drive?
I am sure that someone will say "Ah but all people want to do with these systems is to surf the web and edit a memo". My answer to them is that you can do this using a mobile phone. A real Linux system must have the ability to run thousands of different programs.
Anonymous Coward
@PaulM 1 #
Posted Thursday 10th September 2009 10:16 GMT
Clearly you don't use linux or know anything about the breadth of its architecture support. The GNU C compiler collection is fully supported on ARM cpus and Ubuntu have already released a complete version of their distro for ARM, many major distributions support ARM and Adobe have been working closely with ARM to ensure flash works fluidly on ARM systems for a good while now.
Next time do a little research.
PaulM 1
@PaulM #
Posted Thursday 10th September 2009 12:16 GMT
I am perfectly aware that you can do ARM Linux cross development on a desk top PC.
However, if I was to buy a Linux netbook I would want to be able to development work such as running perl scripts on my netbook.
My point is that a Linux netbook is of little more use than a mobile phone if it can not be used for simple development. Given that mobile companies will give you a PDA mobile phone free as part of a mobile phone contract then it really is more sensible to buy a PDA mobile phone than a Linux netbook.
I am sick and tired of bloatware. If I have a PC in my pocket that is as powerful as a desktop PC from 10 years ago then I want to be able to do development on my netbook.
I wonder if these limitations apply also to XP netbooks. Are they similarily crippled so that you can not develop simple Visual Basic using an XP netbook?
Anonymous Coward
current netbooks (@PaulM) #
Posted Thursday 10th September 2009 12:41 GMT
I'm currently using an Acer Aspire One for web development, I run a local instance of apache and use perl/CGI and mysql to run the backend. Obviously I'm running linux on this machine because it's a)better than windows and b)not crippled. The ARM based netbooks should have similar hardware capabilities.
On a slightly off-topic note Visual Basic is shit. It's an awful abomination of a language.
Tom 52
Similar to the Touch Book? #
Posted Monday 14th September 2009 08:53 GMT
Something like Always Innovating's Touch Book then, but slightly cheaper... maybe.