I'll buy AMD / ATI for my next upgrade. This, and the crippling of PhysX processing off-GPU (more a principle thing for me) has put me off nVidia. I'm due for an upgrade, too...
I, for one, welcome my new AMD processor and graphics card combination!
This is a real shame for all future laptop users. As stated in the article the nVidia chipsets had much beter built in graphics capabilty, to be honest the Intel ones aren't up to much. Since built in graphics is about all you can expect in a laptop, what with the space premium an'all, this means that laptop performance will be further degraded w.r.t. desktop equivilants in processor, RAM, disc etc...
Plus, not allowing others to utilise the full potential of your chip seems to be anti-competitive to me. More so than IE being packaged with Windows, at least then you could choose to download and install a different browser.
On the bright side, this gives AMD a huge advantage with laptop gamers... 8-)
WTF: Nvidia's chipset-integrated GPUs have proved to be rather better than Intel's #
Posted Friday 9th October 2009 12:07 GMT
I knew Intel chipsets were bad but didn't realise they were that bad! The last 3 generations of Nvidia chipsets taught me to just turn off any 'advanced' feature straight away, rather than waiting for Nvidia to do it in later drivers.
Losing competition is never good but Nvidia hardly pushed Intel to improve their products and only diehard fanbois will notice them quitting the chipset biz.
If I recall correctly, Apple announced just a few months back that they were going exclusively with Nvidia video in all their products. Since Apple's reputation is built squarely on having high-performance graphics as a key product feature, this might put the Jobsian sect into a panty-wringing bind. Or maybe this is what Nvidia hopes: Apple's pressure on Intel would be somewhat forceful.
On the other hand, we might see Apple's next generation with their own CPU and chipsets, or even with the next-generation AMD stuff.
Seeing as Nvidia has better preforming products then the crap Intel puts out to compete and the sheit that AMD call hardware. Though what I cant gather is this, is it just the chipsets or the GPUs on hold as well?
"For users, that's a shame. Nvidia's chipset-integrated GPUs have proved to be rather better than Intel's, from both performance and power conservation perspectives."
The GPUs are good, it's just a shame that everything else about them is rubbish... unreliable SATA controllers, badly-designed integrated Ethernet, the lot. I assumle they've finally put their hardware firewalling solution that never worked right out of its misery, but still...
Except that this is only concerned with the CHIPSET, not the graphics card. Apple can use whatever graphics they want, especially since the tend to go with higher end CPUs anyway which have a PCIe interface for graphics.
TheOrginalAsh - so you're going to embrace slower CPUs and worse video drivers? You go, girlfriend! They're all evil, but AMD are way behind in technology terms now (sadly... early Athlon adopter here).
Brett Brennan:
Nope, most Apple stuff is NV GPU and Intel chipset these days.
Intel Core i7 I7-920 Quad Core Processor (2.66GHz, 4x256kB, 4.8GT/s QPI, LGA 1336 Socket B)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core Processor (3.4GHz, 6MB L3 Cache, 4x512KB L2 Cache, 2000 MHz Bus, Socket AM3)
Asus P7P55D Motherboard (Intel Socket H LGA1156, P55 Express, ATX, 16GB DDR3)
Intel Core i5 750 Qaud Core Processor (2.66GHz, 8MB L3 Cache, 2.5 GT/s Bus, Socket H LGA1156)
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G/SB710 Socket AM3 ATX Motherboard
Nvidia halts future Intel chipset development
The Original Ash
Fine! #
Posted Friday 9th October 2009 11:36 GMT
I'll buy AMD / ATI for my next upgrade. This, and the crippling of PhysX processing off-GPU (more a principle thing for me) has put me off nVidia. I'm due for an upgrade, too...
I, for one, welcome my new AMD processor and graphics card combination!
Matthew 25
Shame #
Posted Friday 9th October 2009 12:06 GMT
This is a real shame for all future laptop users. As stated in the article the nVidia chipsets had much beter built in graphics capabilty, to be honest the Intel ones aren't up to much. Since built in graphics is about all you can expect in a laptop, what with the space premium an'all, this means that laptop performance will be further degraded w.r.t. desktop equivilants in processor, RAM, disc etc...
Plus, not allowing others to utilise the full potential of your chip seems to be anti-competitive to me. More so than IE being packaged with Windows, at least then you could choose to download and install a different browser.
On the bright side, this gives AMD a huge advantage with laptop gamers... 8-)
Paul Shirley
WTF: Nvidia's chipset-integrated GPUs have proved to be rather better than Intel's #
Posted Friday 9th October 2009 12:07 GMT
I knew Intel chipsets were bad but didn't realise they were that bad! The last 3 generations of Nvidia chipsets taught me to just turn off any 'advanced' feature straight away, rather than waiting for Nvidia to do it in later drivers.
Losing competition is never good but Nvidia hardly pushed Intel to improve their products and only diehard fanbois will notice them quitting the chipset biz.
Brett Brennan 1
Isn't this going to prang Apple? #
Posted Friday 9th October 2009 20:58 GMT
If I recall correctly, Apple announced just a few months back that they were going exclusively with Nvidia video in all their products. Since Apple's reputation is built squarely on having high-performance graphics as a key product feature, this might put the Jobsian sect into a panty-wringing bind. Or maybe this is what Nvidia hopes: Apple's pressure on Intel would be somewhat forceful.
On the other hand, we might see Apple's next generation with their own CPU and chipsets, or even with the next-generation AMD stuff.
Nahhhh, never happen...
James O'Brien
Shame really #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:22 GMT
Seeing as Nvidia has better preforming products then the crap Intel puts out to compete and the sheit that AMD call hardware. Though what I cant gather is this, is it just the chipsets or the GPUs on hold as well?
the_leander
@Brett Brennan #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:22 GMT
Nvidia will still be doing their graphics cards, they just won't be producing motherboard chipsets.
It's a shame tbh, I rather liked Nvidia and their loss will I believe hurt the market (and so us) in the long term.
I really, really wish that they had gone in with VIA... Their Nano CPUs are wonderful little performers.
Anonymous Coward
Good GPUs, shame about the chipset #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:22 GMT
"For users, that's a shame. Nvidia's chipset-integrated GPUs have proved to be rather better than Intel's, from both performance and power conservation perspectives."
The GPUs are good, it's just a shame that everything else about them is rubbish... unreliable SATA controllers, badly-designed integrated Ethernet, the lot. I assumle they've finally put their hardware firewalling solution that never worked right out of its misery, but still...
RRRoamer
Uhm, no... @ Brett #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:22 GMT
Except that this is only concerned with the CHIPSET, not the graphics card. Apple can use whatever graphics they want, especially since the tend to go with higher end CPUs anyway which have a PCIe interface for graphics.
Isaias Compres
SLI #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:22 GMT
I heard the issue is tht intel wants an SLI licence in return and nVidia does not want to.
Anonymous Coward
nope #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:22 GMT
TheOrginalAsh - so you're going to embrace slower CPUs and worse video drivers? You go, girlfriend! They're all evil, but AMD are way behind in technology terms now (sadly... early Athlon adopter here).
Brett Brennan:
Nope, most Apple stuff is NV GPU and Intel chipset these days.
Anonymous Coward
Why don't Nvidia just an ARM on the chip and #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:22 GMT
forget Intel
Tony Smith
Re: Why don't Nvidia just an ARM on the chip and #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 09:23 GMT
They have, it's called Tegra.
Kactus
I had to buy an intel chipset lately... #
Posted Monday 12th October 2009 12:29 GMT
And that was the first time in a long time I've had flash backs to the old 486 days.
"When populating all four banks of memory only single sided dimms are supported. Double sided dimms are supported when two banks or less are in use"
.... I'd like you to find some single sided 2gb or higher dimms in Perth Australia :( so much for the 8gb of Kingmax ram I bought with the board....