Hopefully this means they are actually going to finish the firmware before releasing it into a world of pain.
Unlike the N97, which is still waiting for the V20 firmware (the firmware it should have been released with), which was last known to be arriving in October.
You would have to be pretty stupid to get a Noka first generation phone nowadays, since their quality control/bug fixing seems to be pretty non-existant.
"Hey we have this new shiny doodad which is really cool - but the programmers tell us will take another 6 months to bug-fix - what shall we do? I know - release it now and make our customers wait a year until it becomes stable"
F*ck 'em. No more nokias for me until that philosophy changes.
It's not something like the N97 or any other phone. This is a fully fledged computer in a portable case. Unlike the iPhone or Symbian or Windows Mobile devices, you have your normal familiar shell you know from your Linux desktop.
Sure, some applications are a bit minimalistic and the keyboard is a bit small, but you have a root shell, you can use ssh easily and even have X11.
The software Nokia provides is almoust irrelevant as you'll be mostly using 4rd party software anyhow.
First generation? More like 4th generation, I'd say - after N770, N800 and N810. It's the first Maemo phone, that's true. But no reports as of yet of any phone-related issues on the device. Nokia gave 300 of those during the Maemo summit and any major problems would've surfaced by now.
"Nokia gave 300 of those during the Maemo summit and any major problems would've surfaced by now."
Optimistically hoping the delay is only due to squashing minor bugs found by those 300 very knowledgeable beta testers...
The N900 actually could be the first non-secondhand Nokia I will be buying, after shelling out for a 6110 in 2000. from the reviews, it sounds like the first Linux phone by any major company done right. I mean, what is Linux without easy access to the shell prompt?
I've been able to play (shortly) with an n900 last weekend at the Google SoC mentor summit. As an n810 owner not really being happy about the firmware and its support, I had told myself never to buy from Nokia again. But the n900 was a positive surprise, and they certainly learned a lot about the mistakes they made in the n8x0.
Orange keep ringing me to remind me I'm out of contract, and I keep telling them I'm leaving unless something is very wrong with the N900, which they seem unable to stock <shrug> Carefail - I can port my number, so why stay loyal ?
Nokia N900 delayed
Anonymous Coward
Hopefully... #
Posted Monday 26th October 2009 15:50 GMT
Hopefully this means they are actually going to finish the firmware before releasing it into a world of pain.
Unlike the N97, which is still waiting for the V20 firmware (the firmware it should have been released with), which was last known to be arriving in October.
I don't think anyone asked *which* October!
Jason Hall
bad nokia #
Posted Monday 26th October 2009 17:12 GMT
You would have to be pretty stupid to get a Noka first generation phone nowadays, since their quality control/bug fixing seems to be pretty non-existant.
"Hey we have this new shiny doodad which is really cool - but the programmers tell us will take another 6 months to bug-fix - what shall we do? I know - release it now and make our customers wait a year until it becomes stable"
F*ck 'em. No more nokias for me until that philosophy changes.
Bad Beaver
arrr #
Posted Monday 26th October 2009 22:22 GMT
I would like to have this but there's no way I'm buying a N-Series device without proper post-released reviews.
Christian Berger
This is _not_ a mobile phone #
Posted Monday 26th October 2009 22:22 GMT
It's not something like the N97 or any other phone. This is a fully fledged computer in a portable case. Unlike the iPhone or Symbian or Windows Mobile devices, you have your normal familiar shell you know from your Linux desktop.
Sure, some applications are a bit minimalistic and the keyboard is a bit small, but you have a root shell, you can use ssh easily and even have X11.
The software Nokia provides is almoust irrelevant as you'll be mostly using 4rd party software anyhow.
gerryg
@Christian Berger #
Posted Tuesday 27th October 2009 00:02 GMT
"4rd"? Has FSF released a suitable licence for 4rd generation software?
Tsvetomir Tsonev
@ Jason Hall #
Posted Tuesday 27th October 2009 02:51 GMT
First generation? More like 4th generation, I'd say - after N770, N800 and N810. It's the first Maemo phone, that's true. But no reports as of yet of any phone-related issues on the device. Nokia gave 300 of those during the Maemo summit and any major problems would've surfaced by now.
MacroRodent
Expecting great things... #
Posted Tuesday 27th October 2009 11:36 GMT
"Nokia gave 300 of those during the Maemo summit and any major problems would've surfaced by now."
Optimistically hoping the delay is only due to squashing minor bugs found by those 300 very knowledgeable beta testers...
The N900 actually could be the first non-secondhand Nokia I will be buying, after shelling out for a 6110 in 2000. from the reviews, it sounds like the first Linux phone by any major company done right. I mean, what is Linux without easy access to the shell prompt?
Peter D'Hoye
n900 is pretty good, actually #
Posted Tuesday 27th October 2009 11:36 GMT
I've been able to play (shortly) with an n900 last weekend at the Google SoC mentor summit. As an n810 owner not really being happy about the firmware and its support, I had told myself never to buy from Nokia again. But the n900 was a positive surprise, and they certainly learned a lot about the mistakes they made in the n8x0.
Paul Hates Handles
Orange... #
Posted Tuesday 27th October 2009 11:36 GMT
...so this'll be available on Orange sometime in 2011? Fucking useless bastards. Orange, that is.
Tom Chiverton 1
@Paul Hates Handles #
Posted Tuesday 27th October 2009 14:58 GMT
Orange keep ringing me to remind me I'm out of contract, and I keep telling them I'm leaving unless something is very wrong with the N900, which they seem unable to stock <shrug> Carefail - I can port my number, so why stay loyal ?
Anonymous Coward
Shipping #
Posted Thursday 29th October 2009 11:20 GMT
Just spoken to someone at Nokia UK - They are expecting shipment on the 9th (Nov), soo...