I want an ebook reader, true enough. But one that does not tie me to buying books from the hardware vendor.
And, like paper books, allows me to remove it from my reader and give it away to a friend. Or to Oxfam to sell for charity.
Or, like paper text books, allows me to sell them second hand at the end of the year/course to the next bunch of hopefulls
And which, when copyright expires, allows anyone to read it, copy it, archive it.
The obvious solution is to put the books on tiny memory slips, like microSD, and give the reader half a dozen slots and a pocket on the back to keep a few hundred more in. Such memory slips could be read-only, and not available blank, if the trade want to control piracy. I'd be happy with that, as long as encryption was an ISO standard and not proprietary to one supplier.
"The obvious solution is to put the books on tiny memory slips, like microSD, and give the reader half a dozen slots and a pocket on the back to keep a few hundred more in."
That sir, is an obvious solution. One obvious solution to get to the sun is to flap your wings and fly there. Both are completely unworkable and impractical.
I think both the industry and the consumer want rid of physical media (per book/song/film). We just need to find a way to kee both sides happy wrt copying. When the starting point for negotiation from the industry is "we want the same price per initial sale, but remove all rights / possbilities for resale and reduce production cost", it is never going to be easy. Selling them on expensive silicon wont help at all, and is as environmentally unsound as you could reasonably hope for.
i'd like an easy to use ebook reader.....but i'd also like a stylus based tablet....but which is better.....there's only one way to find out.......FIGHT!!!!!!
Digital information wants to flow free, no proprietary system will become universally adopted unless information flows free on it.
Digital readers will succeed the day they can render a standard PDF with pictures at least using 200dpi on a real-state screen approximately the size of a regular book.
Is HWR that important, is it the "killer app" of the tablet. I think no.
Being able to write note, on a screen, store them electronically and have useful things like them being auto dated and categorized e.g team meeting, server architecture etc then encrypted is fantastic, as it would aid fast recall and various other things.
But I don't really need them converted into computer text, my notes are very contextual, there are scribbles, emphasis, lines drawn between words, stars in the corner and all sorts of things that would be very difficult to represent without some very very very clever software, so whats the point.
Im quite happy to take notes in a meeting and then type them up later, usually into a very different format.
All I really want is an ever lasting A4 notepad, with a date stamp.
BTW Microsoft Courier looks very close to dream device so far, lets hope its more than the dream
Those wonderful tablets, small, ubiquitous, expensive, with loads of downloaded, paid for content, how marvellously thievable, books on the other hand, who'd bother stealing a £4.99 paperback these days ?
When Inkwell came out in 10.2 -- or possibly 10.3 -- I thought that Apple was imminently releasing a tablet or PDA or whatever. Since then it's been sitting there like a .... sitting thing, forgotten like something I can't remember the name of, and abandoned like a campaign promise.
DAMN IT'S ABOUT TIME! Every time a PDA or phone is released the *first* thing I look to see is if it has hand writing recognition and it never does darnit! I have become increasingly annoyed wondering why the heck no ones makes one. The technology has been around since the Newton! I want an electronic notepad! I want to write not peck! I have yet to buy a hand held device because of this.
I think AC is talking about devices worth it. If the device is useless for most other stuff (except calling and SMS) then what good is HWR?? Handwrite your SMS? LOL
Nokia's are good for SMS and phone only, AFAIK (have had a few, never tested HWR on 'em, though), and I assume the other 4 are Nokia's!
Keyboard, because I had a giggle reading the comments ...
Player_16
All I Have To Do Is Dream #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 05:24 GMT
Dream, dream dream dream, dream, dream dream dream
When I want you in my hands, when I want you and all your charms
Whenever I want you, all I have to do, is
Dream, dream dream dream...
EVERLY BROTHERS -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKn6h2x5IcY&feature=related
Robert E A Harvey
ebooks #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 06:41 GMT
I want an ebook reader, true enough. But one that does not tie me to buying books from the hardware vendor.
And, like paper books, allows me to remove it from my reader and give it away to a friend. Or to Oxfam to sell for charity.
Or, like paper text books, allows me to sell them second hand at the end of the year/course to the next bunch of hopefulls
And which, when copyright expires, allows anyone to read it, copy it, archive it.
The obvious solution is to put the books on tiny memory slips, like microSD, and give the reader half a dozen slots and a pocket on the back to keep a few hundred more in. Such memory slips could be read-only, and not available blank, if the trade want to control piracy. I'd be happy with that, as long as encryption was an ISO standard and not proprietary to one supplier.
Anonymous Coward
Just in time for Christmas #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 09:47 GMT
I'll get the cranberry sauce and leave the stuffing for the fanbois..
Or Paris.
It wasnt me
@Robert E A Harvey #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 09:47 GMT
"The obvious solution is to put the books on tiny memory slips, like microSD, and give the reader half a dozen slots and a pocket on the back to keep a few hundred more in."
That sir, is an obvious solution. One obvious solution to get to the sun is to flap your wings and fly there. Both are completely unworkable and impractical.
I think both the industry and the consumer want rid of physical media (per book/song/film). We just need to find a way to kee both sides happy wrt copying. When the starting point for negotiation from the industry is "we want the same price per initial sale, but remove all rights / possbilities for resale and reduce production cost", it is never going to be easy. Selling them on expensive silicon wont help at all, and is as environmentally unsound as you could reasonably hope for.
richard 69
hmmm #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 09:47 GMT
i'd like an easy to use ebook reader.....but i'd also like a stylus based tablet....but which is better.....there's only one way to find out.......FIGHT!!!!!!
John Sanders
Some do not get it #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 09:47 GMT
@Robert E A Harvey
Digital information wants to flow free, no proprietary system will become universally adopted unless information flows free on it.
Digital readers will succeed the day they can render a standard PDF with pictures at least using 200dpi on a real-state screen approximately the size of a regular book.
David Edwards
Handwriting recognition #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 09:48 GMT
Is HWR that important, is it the "killer app" of the tablet. I think no.
Being able to write note, on a screen, store them electronically and have useful things like them being auto dated and categorized e.g team meeting, server architecture etc then encrypted is fantastic, as it would aid fast recall and various other things.
But I don't really need them converted into computer text, my notes are very contextual, there are scribbles, emphasis, lines drawn between words, stars in the corner and all sorts of things that would be very difficult to represent without some very very very clever software, so whats the point.
Im quite happy to take notes in a meeting and then type them up later, usually into a very different format.
All I really want is an ever lasting A4 notepad, with a date stamp.
BTW Microsoft Courier looks very close to dream device so far, lets hope its more than the dream
Annihilator
Eat up Martha #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 10:35 GMT
Don't they have plenty of patents like this already?
Jolyon
@David Edwards #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 11:22 GMT
"All I really want is an ever lasting A4 notepad, with a date stamp."
Making it searchable surely has to be a Good Thing.
Evil_Trev
I dream of thieviery #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 12:46 GMT
Those wonderful tablets, small, ubiquitous, expensive, with loads of downloaded, paid for content, how marvellously thievable, books on the other hand, who'd bother stealing a £4.99 paperback these days ?
Bet the 'security' is very poor on them.
sabroni
@ John Sanders #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 12:46 GMT
Digital information doesn't have wants. Don't you mean "I don't want to pay for stuff"?
Bilgepipe
@David Edwards #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 16:02 GMT
@David Edwards:
I wouldn't spend to much time worrying about Microsofts Courier, it's nothing more than a CGI rendering.
Richard 102
Inkwell finally put to good use? #
Posted Friday 13th November 2009 19:45 GMT
When Inkwell came out in 10.2 -- or possibly 10.3 -- I thought that Apple was imminently releasing a tablet or PDA or whatever. Since then it's been sitting there like a .... sitting thing, forgotten like something I can't remember the name of, and abandoned like a campaign promise.
(Knew I'd get one in eventually.)
Anonymous Coward
THANK GOD! #
Posted Monday 16th November 2009 10:09 GMT
DAMN IT'S ABOUT TIME! Every time a PDA or phone is released the *first* thing I look to see is if it has hand writing recognition and it never does darnit! I have become increasingly annoyed wondering why the heck no ones makes one. The technology has been around since the Newton! I want an electronic notepad! I want to write not peck! I have yet to buy a hand held device because of this.
Wilko1980
HWR on phones. #
Posted Monday 16th November 2009 13:06 GMT
@ AC:
My phone has handwriting recognition, and it's pretty good (the phone sucks but the HWR is good - its a Nokia 5800 if you're wondering).
You obviously haven't been looking hard enough, I can think of at least 5 phones with HWR, most significantly better than mine.
Hans 1
@Wilko1980 #
Posted Monday 16th November 2009 14:29 GMT
I think AC is talking about devices worth it. If the device is useless for most other stuff (except calling and SMS) then what good is HWR?? Handwrite your SMS? LOL
Nokia's are good for SMS and phone only, AFAIK (have had a few, never tested HWR on 'em, though), and I assume the other 4 are Nokia's!
Keyboard, because I had a giggle reading the comments ...
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