Not that you can see it very well but here's a picture of me on duty posted online by my force! So they're not that worried about publishing images etc...
I went to check my stalkerbook and it wouldn't re-load, ok try twitterfon... no nothing. Oh good god O2 why do this to me?! I presume I'll no get a discount on my iPhone45 package this month?
Paris because she doesn't have to rely on her electronic gadgets
Sounds more like the bloke died of shock in which case being dealt with by the police at all could have caused it. Don't forget that here in the UK our main methods of compliance are hands (holding, punching etc), PAVA/CS Gas or Baton each of which has some very nasty effects. It's quite easy to severely injure people by punching them, PAVA/CS/Captor etc can trigger alergic reactions in people (if someone suffers from severe asthma for example which is a damned site more common than people with pacemakers or implanted AED's) and baton's can break bones and cause internal bleeding without realising it, let alone having to stike someone in a red area which could kill on impact.
People die when they come into contact with the police because there is 'safe' way of subdueing people, there isn't a magic spiders web you can eject on someone. When faced with arrest people struggle, people play very dirty to avoid arrest, which gets much worse when they are drunk, on drugs, have learning difficulties, are built like the proverbial outside WC or are female (women are the worst!). We have techniques for dealing with people who've been gassed but still won't give up, causing more danger to us and them.
Taser is a relitively 'safe' method as it's visual impact is huge, people know that that red dot on there chest is going to turn into pain followed by hitting the deck and in the vast majority of cases thats as far as it goes (here in the UK at least). Where an officer has to then fire the weapon in the majority (99+%) the effect is a positive one, dropping the detained person long enough for them to be restrained. If two or three people worldwide have a bad outcome then maybe it's something that has to be lived with.
If confronted with a taser equiped police officer, comply!
Tasers are lower on the scale than CS Gas or a baton, both of which UK police forces carry and use on a daily basis. People who are very well built or are high on adrenalin or drugs often don't feel the baton strike so you're forced to go for riskier areas, people often take a CS/Pava hit and still go for you and with CS there is always the chance that it'll effect you and all your collegues. Tazer's just seem like a sensible option.
But because the taser fires projectiles it's seen as the scariest thing since a 9mm, it's less likely to give you broken bones than a baton, it's less likely to make you go blind/have a reaction than gas, it's less likely to break your cheek bone than a well placed punch and when you're dealing with firearms officers it's less likely to give you broken ribs (they don't use hands just kick, they can't let go of their weapons) or even less likely to get you shot.
It is just another tool and it works. Tazer drawn, red dot on... "look at your chest, if you don't get down now I will shock you there with 50000volts" ... subject hits deck quickly. That's generally how it works, without even having to pull the trigger because people know what it does.
The only downside I've seen so far is the likelyhood to set people on fire. The propelants for the CS and Pava used by law enforcement is alcohol based, combined with taser can give a nice toasted subject. Pava2 soon to be taken up by some forces uses a non-combustable material.
... I know lots of female officers who just do not get on with womens trousers. One friend tried some on and it made her look like she was wearing trousers far too big for her. In the end she got some mens trousers and the tayloress took some length out of them.
What is more worrying is our force (oh it's my part time job by the way) has done away with male and female stabbies. Now they all get unisex ones which are too short for the blokes and don't give enough room for the women. I'm worried I might end up with one when I reach the use by dates on the plates in my one.
Wouldn't it be an idea to have a lift out battery module so you could leave one on charge at home and swap them around so you always had one on charge and one in the car?
who make a living by screwing down the price they pay the farmers... Will this push the price up as agents will start having to add more at the market end in order to turn a profit? or will they have to just take the hit?
...want to take a picture of a police officer on duty, please feel free to contact me! lol. I think the MPS do themselves a disservice, out here in the counties I'll even smile if someone wants a picture.
Don't forget there is plenty of support available in the way of books from SAP Press such as... http://www.sap-press.com/product.cfm?account=&product=H2988&shoppingcart=003 .
There is even support from sources such as about.com for example http://logistics.about.com/
13 posts • joined Thursday 26th February 2009 13:52 GMT
McFlurry
erm... → #
Posted Monday 17th August 2009 12:48 GMT
In Police, Cameras, Pixellation
Not that you can see it very well but here's a picture of me on duty posted online by my force! So they're not that worried about publishing images etc...
http://www.southyorks.police.uk/workforus/specials/history
McFlurry
Bugger me... → #
Posted Wednesday 5th August 2009 13:08 GMT
In O2 data fails, again
I went to check my stalkerbook and it wouldn't re-load, ok try twitterfon... no nothing. Oh good god O2 why do this to me?! I presume I'll no get a discount on my iPhone45 package this month?
Paris because she doesn't have to rely on her electronic gadgets
McFlurry
so is... → #
Posted Wednesday 22nd July 2009 13:41 GMT
In O2 coughs to data failure
...this related to the "permanant-service-denied" message I received from an unknown number? trawling fanboi forums seems to suggest so.
Because she's pretty to look at but fairly useless like my iPhone was yesterday.
McFlurry
appropriate → #
Posted Friday 12th June 2009 12:15 GMT
In Oz cops in Taser fatality
Sounds more like the bloke died of shock in which case being dealt with by the police at all could have caused it. Don't forget that here in the UK our main methods of compliance are hands (holding, punching etc), PAVA/CS Gas or Baton each of which has some very nasty effects. It's quite easy to severely injure people by punching them, PAVA/CS/Captor etc can trigger alergic reactions in people (if someone suffers from severe asthma for example which is a damned site more common than people with pacemakers or implanted AED's) and baton's can break bones and cause internal bleeding without realising it, let alone having to stike someone in a red area which could kill on impact.
People die when they come into contact with the police because there is 'safe' way of subdueing people, there isn't a magic spiders web you can eject on someone. When faced with arrest people struggle, people play very dirty to avoid arrest, which gets much worse when they are drunk, on drugs, have learning difficulties, are built like the proverbial outside WC or are female (women are the worst!). We have techniques for dealing with people who've been gassed but still won't give up, causing more danger to us and them.
Taser is a relitively 'safe' method as it's visual impact is huge, people know that that red dot on there chest is going to turn into pain followed by hitting the deck and in the vast majority of cases thats as far as it goes (here in the UK at least). Where an officer has to then fire the weapon in the majority (99+%) the effect is a positive one, dropping the detained person long enough for them to be restrained. If two or three people worldwide have a bad outcome then maybe it's something that has to be lived with.
If confronted with a taser equiped police officer, comply!
Mines the day-glow one...
McFlurry
I don't get this... → #
Posted Tuesday 26th May 2009 09:25 GMT
In Scientists: Tasers work, but we don't know how
Tasers are lower on the scale than CS Gas or a baton, both of which UK police forces carry and use on a daily basis. People who are very well built or are high on adrenalin or drugs often don't feel the baton strike so you're forced to go for riskier areas, people often take a CS/Pava hit and still go for you and with CS there is always the chance that it'll effect you and all your collegues. Tazer's just seem like a sensible option.
But because the taser fires projectiles it's seen as the scariest thing since a 9mm, it's less likely to give you broken bones than a baton, it's less likely to make you go blind/have a reaction than gas, it's less likely to break your cheek bone than a well placed punch and when you're dealing with firearms officers it's less likely to give you broken ribs (they don't use hands just kick, they can't let go of their weapons) or even less likely to get you shot.
It is just another tool and it works. Tazer drawn, red dot on... "look at your chest, if you don't get down now I will shock you there with 50000volts" ... subject hits deck quickly. That's generally how it works, without even having to pull the trigger because people know what it does.
The only downside I've seen so far is the likelyhood to set people on fire. The propelants for the CS and Pava used by law enforcement is alcohol based, combined with taser can give a nice toasted subject. Pava2 soon to be taken up by some forces uses a non-combustable material.
McFlurry
here here... → #
Posted Friday 22nd May 2009 15:34 GMT
In Women coppers eager to drop trousers
... I know lots of female officers who just do not get on with womens trousers. One friend tried some on and it made her look like she was wearing trousers far too big for her. In the end she got some mens trousers and the tayloress took some length out of them.
What is more worrying is our force (oh it's my part time job by the way) has done away with male and female stabbies. Now they all get unisex ones which are too short for the blokes and don't give enough room for the women. I'm worried I might end up with one when I reach the use by dates on the plates in my one.
Paris doesn't want saggy pants...
McFlurry
Downloaded it straight away... → #
Posted Thursday 14th May 2009 15:12 GMT
In iPhone users to walk and read at same time
... and it's fantastic. Why didn't someone think of it before?! Would be nice to incorporate/feed it to the text app rather than just e-mail though.
McFlurry
Wow → #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 14:57 GMT
In BMW opens up to haptic car doors
A door that stops itself being banged into other cars would be a nice application.
She knows when not to bang...
McFlurry
has anyone thought of... → #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 13:55 GMT
In South Africa punts money into e-MPV maker
Wouldn't it be an idea to have a lift out battery module so you could leave one on charge at home and swap them around so you always had one on charge and one in the car?
McFlurry
apart from the agents → #
Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 13:27 GMT
In Nokia Life Tools help Indian farmers get one
who make a living by screwing down the price they pay the farmers... Will this push the price up as agents will start having to add more at the market end in order to turn a profit? or will they have to just take the hit?
McFlurry
If you ever... → #
Posted Tuesday 7th April 2009 13:33 GMT
In Photocops: Home Office concedes concern
...want to take a picture of a police officer on duty, please feel free to contact me! lol. I think the MPS do themselves a disservice, out here in the counties I'll even smile if someone wants a picture.
McFlurry
Plenty of support... → #
Posted Monday 6th April 2009 09:45 GMT
In SAP promises maintenance metrics 'soon'
Don't forget there is plenty of support available in the way of books from SAP Press such as... http://www.sap-press.com/product.cfm?account=&product=H2988&shoppingcart=003 .
There is even support from sources such as about.com for example http://logistics.about.com/
McFlurry
@The Dorset Rambler → #
Posted Thursday 26th February 2009 13:57 GMT
In Boffins: Send robot lawn tractors to the Moon
Seriously I just yelped trying to contain my laughter.
After Nasa's recent exploits I'm not that sure they could manage this within the next ten years or so.